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Show Notes:

• Inside the Growing Trend of Homeowners Creating Dumb Homes - YouTube
• "Dumb homes" are the latest design trend
• Open Home Foundation
• Aurora police show how Flock cameras work behind the scenes - YouTube
• Flock Recenty Partned with Ring and Planning AI
• Woman says police used Flock cameras to wrongfully accuse her of theft - YouTube
• Dystopian Town Sends Lying Cop To Innocent Woman's Home - YouTube
• Dystopian Town Sends Lying Cop To Innocent Woman's Home - The Civil Rights LawyerThe Civil Rights Lawyer
• Denver mayor extends license plate camera contract without council approval - YouTube
• Washington city turns off license plate readers after records request - YouTube
• Hillsborough cancels Flock cameras contract over data concerns - YouTube
• They call it.. The Illuminati Guest House

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• Heidi J Masters • Run To Safer Ground 

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This is the launch episode 41   for 11/11/2025.   Streaming from the beautiful Pacific Northwest and the mighty American West Coast, we greet you all a good morning, a good evening, or whenever your timeline may fall, time appropriate greetings indeed to one and all. This is The Launch, and my name is Chris. And I'm Angela. Hello, Andrews. Big show coming up. A lot to get into. Few things everyone should probably know about.   You can call this show live when you're listening on a Tuesday or you can leave us a voicemail after the fact. Either way, that phone number,   (774)   462-5667.  

That's (774)   462-5667.   We are live 11:30AM   Pacific, 02:30PM eastern, 07:30PM UTC at jblive.tv   or in your podcasting Totoro app of choice. Then we release Wednesday morning for your downloads when I remember to actually publish it. The mumble room opens up usually about a half hour before we start, and, of course, our launch HQ chat room goes all   freaking   week long. And, also, we wanted to say, I hope you had a happy Veterans Day to all the vets out there in the audience. We appreciate you. Thank you very, very much for your service.   We are recording today on Veterans Day. But as you're listening this as this, it'll be the day after. What's the name what is there a term for the day after a holiday?  

You know? A workday.  

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Yeah. Nice.  

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Seriously.   Seriously.   Well, Andrews, we had an idea for the show.   What if we held a little impromptu  

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AMA? Yes.  

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So ask us anything. You've got a question for Andrews or a question for me or about the show. Mhmm. This would be your chance to boost in, or you could leave us a voice mail.   Yep. Ask, is there is there anything off topic?  

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No. I don't think so. I mean, once if we once, I can We'll find out. We can talk. Yeah. Exactly. I we won't know until it comes in. But, one thing that I really like is when the boost,  

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come in, they answer one of our questions, but then, ask us a question. Yeah. That's always fun. And then it can be opened up to the rest of the audience. Gets the ball rolling. Yeah. Alright. Boost it in. Let us know, or you can leave us a voice mail.   It's AMA time, which we've never really done before. We'll see if it works.   Alright. I have a bit of a sad.   I mean, I totally understand and can totally appreciate why this trend is happening,   but it is officially a trend now. Dumb homes are selling better than smart homes.   Axios writes, the return of analog hobbies and spaces is about more than nostalgia for pre Internet times, according to researchers.  

A home where technology is always in the background, working and listening feels anxiety producing, the researchers say, instead of restorative,   like people want from a home. Also, rising cost of smart devices, new advances that always make the old systems obsolete,   and troubleshooting have caused homeowners headaches in the past.   And, this trend is getting some momentum in sales and both in coverage by the mainstream media.  

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We are back this morning on today's consumer, a new trend that is reminding us of simpler dumber times. That's right. Long before cloning pets, the popularity of things like Wi Fi enabled devices  

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and light bulbs may be dimming with a new report suggesting people are actually looking for more ways to make their smart homes a little dumber. Yeah. NBC's  

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Morgan Chesky has more on this return to analog.   Hey, Morgan.  

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Yeah. Finally, guys. And this one hitting a little close to home here because if you've ever found yourself getting frustrated when those smart home devices that are supposed to make your life easier crash, well, rest assured you are definitely not alone.   Now a new home trend from real estate giant Zillow suggests that being smarter   isn't always better. Uh-oh.   From doorbells   to lights, and, yes,   even toasters.   The best thing since sliced bread now toasts it. Our phones have supposedly become smarter than ever. Alexa, start my day. But it's when those devices decide   decide not to work or are simply overly complicated that many find high-tech, leaves them high and dry.  



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Alexa.  

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Oh my gosh. Stop. Now a new trend report from Zillow suggests dwellings are undergoing a digital detox   in favor of dumb homes. I don't want a smart house. The company says listings mentioning more intimate spaces like reading nooks are appearing 48% more often, which the company says reflects the growing demand for unplugged relaxation   at home. People are apt out. Realtors like Julie Provenzano in Dallas are taking note. So in some cases, a home can almost become  

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too smart. A home can become too smart. Alright. So  

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I   I hate to see this happening, and I totally get it because these products suck. They often require subscription, and then the vendor just drops them. Mhmm. They're   frequently spying on you.   And they're they're the smart functionality usually cost more too.   But when done with open standards   so one of the things   that I think we have to somehow get in the consumer mind space is   there's commercial solutions that are vendor backed, and then there   are open foundation solutions. So the Open Home Foundation, which was created by the Home Assistant people,   is designed to create an ecosystem   of   devices and software that is   offline first, privacy first, and and follows standards.  

And so when you build something into a home, you need to follow building standards.   When you build an add on, you have to follow certain standards. So when you install technology, you need to follow certain standards.   And people need to think about it in the same kind of context. It's not complicated. It's not harder. They already do it for their home. It's already part of responsible home ownership. They just have to shift context around technology. And things like the Open Home Foundation   are doing that. You know, and this is me personally, and it's everybody's different design. But generally, if the family has to interact with the smart technology, then I haven't set it up correctly. Like the kids,   at most, push a button to change the lighting situation. Right? They they don't. They're never going to the system to adjust temperature   or adjust when the lighting comes on. Right? Because all of that has been either automated or refined and then,   designed around   interaction. If you have to interact with it, then that's a design interaction failure on on my part. Now not everything is like that. Now, obviously, I have overrides, but Mhmm. And then all of it is built on technology that I am comfortable enough with actually installing into my walls because I know it's going to last for a minimum of ten years. And it's an open product from an open source project,   and it's just people have to think about it like this. Like, they're they're getting they're going into Best Buy, and everything on the shelf in Best Buy is connected with some sort of large brands cloud service,   And you don't want that.  

And I don't know how to get this out there because   life, when you get this  

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right, is better. Right. Your your peace of mind is better, all of that. I was gonna equate it to,   for the longest time, I stuck with cars with basic features, right, while you had   a bunch of features. Yeah. Yeah. And then I got an Acura   with a bunch of features, and I was like, oh my gosh. How can I ever ever go back? Mhmm. Right? Right. I can understand questioning, is this the right thing to stay with? Right. It took forever for me to get a,   Apple Home.   Mhmm. Right? But I finally did. Mhmm. And I I'm still I think it's only been, like, what, a year since I got Ring. Mhmm. But it it's super helpful. Yeah.   Right. I like it. I enjoy these things. And it's peace of mind, like, when you're not there. Mhmm. You can check-in on stuff. Yeah. I don't I don't have nearly as much home automation as you do.  



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Yeah. It's and I and it's because, you know, for me, it was all part of the show stuff and what I'm just particularly interested in. But Mhmm. And two, it's like if I'm if I'm installing something that's turning on and off my water pump,   I don't want that to be a Samsung owned device or something. Right. It's just crazy. And there is a way. There that it's not like what what I'm saying is impossible. This ecosystem exists today.   It is already possible today. It's just consumers don't know any better, and they get funneled. The same thing used to happen in in PCs early on. It's not these days, you go into a Best Buy or whatever. Pretty good chances, you spend $900,   you're gonna get a good computer. Not maybe that'd be great. Maybe they scammed you on something, but it's decent. Right? That wasn't the case back in the day. Back in the day,   there were some real shit boxes, and they would scam consumers all the time. And you would go in, I want a gaming PC, and you'd spend $900 and wouldn't even have a a dedicated video card. Look at, Nimmo's comment or Nemo. I don't know how you would say that. Finding Nemo? Yeah. Okay. My four year old is starting to believe me that the house isn't magic. As fun as it was to say, oh, abracadabra,   and then never, and never have her stare in awe as the lights turn. I know. Right? Oh, I did I did it also enjoy that moment. However, so what's fun now is on the holidays, I let each one of the kids pick different colors for, like, the different rooms. So for Halloween,   I let each kid pick the color for different lights to set a Halloween theme. And then for Christmas, I'll do it again. And they love that. It's a simple thing and because with most of the year, it's just a warm light. Mhmm. And I don't change the colors. Yeah. So then when they do change the colors, it's like a special occasion.  

And it's it's I just hate to see it sliding this way. And it's interesting to see it in some of the home sales actually show up. Is it just anti AI propaganda?   Oh, well, I think it's anti just I think it's or maybe another way to put it is, like,   big tech fatigue.   Like, maybe tracking fatigue and all of this. And you just and, like, when you don't when it's when it's too much to parse through and you don't know what's legit and what's not, it's like, well, then I'm just gonna default to none of it. I can flip a light switch. Because that's what I think a lot. When you talk about a smart home, a lot of people will, I could get up and flip a switch. And that's what they think about. They don't they don't because they've never used it, so they don't they don't appreciate the broader context.   And so when you're thinking about in that context, well, then what's the big deal if I go in and I and I I buy this random, you know, TP Link, switch for at Best Buy? What's the big deal? Mhmm. It's a big deal. Yeah. So what I gotta buy the proprietary hub. What's the big deal? So what? So what? I know.  



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I know.  

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Let me know what you think.   Are you a dumb home only person?   If you are, did you try the smart home stuff first and then, like, it just went totally bad, it went sideways on you? Also, I wouldn't mind hearing some smart home wins, but I I kinda would be interested in hearing from folks that had some losses or or or specifically don't want a smart home.  

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You know, my watch, a lot of times if my hands are busy or dirty or whatever, I use my nose to tap my watch to wake it up. Right? Yeah. Because I turned off raise to wake because it drains the battery. It does that, like, when her hands are full. When she's got bags and stuff, she'll be a bloop. So every time that I do that now, it activates Siri.   Oh, you don't want that? No. You might be able to disable that somewhere. I know. I need to figure it out. It's so annoying. So that's that's failing me for sure. Alright. Well,  

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this next segment, well, I wish it wasn't a thing.   Well, who could have seen this one coming?   There's a lot of drama flocking to these flock cameras, and I mean a lot all over the nation. It's the hot new trend.   And I wanna back up a little bit just to, recap for listeners who maybe are not coming in hot to a topic that I've been following   both in the main show and in the bootleg. A little recap, Aurora Police in Colorado were gonna show us how helpful the flock cameras are. And a big part of this is selling you on the safety of it. These flock cameras are solving crime.  

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And so the, of course, the solution is is to go behind the scenes and let them tell you all the propaganda straight to the camera. I'm sorry. One in channel two sat down exclusively with the two people of Aurora Police to talk about the new flock technology making major headlines recently in the metro area. Yeah. All new here at five Fox thirty one's Nicole Fiera live with the latest on how it works and how well it's working in Aurora. Nicole?  

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Yeah. We talked about it, then we gotta see it in action with the first look at the real time information center that's right here. The two go hand in hand. Sounds expensive.  

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So that alert that you just heard was actually a flock alert. In the real time information center, technician Dylan shows us what happens when a hit comes in on flock technology that sends a picture of a license plate car and a map of the area it's seen in. It has an associated felony warrant. So I go on our traffic cameras to show the location. It's gonna be that vehicle right there. And I just had another Flocket. The only So they got a group of quasi cops sitting in a room with a bunch of big screens and a bunch of computers at prop up tables,  

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and they're just receiving   push notifications   from the flock system. Like, their computers are not doing the analysis. Mhmm. The flock system's doing the analysis and then sending these, cops that sit there all day,   notifications  

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of where these, people are that they're looking for. Alert to the hits where there's crime involved. They alert to a hit where somebody has taken your property and is now driving it around and most likely gonna use it to victimize somebody else. Oh, so not only is he stealing your car, but then he's gonna victimize somebody else with your stolen car, and they're stopping that. So it's not about a mass thing of surveillance on everybody. What Aurora's police chief Todd Chamberlain explains, Dylan shows confirming the hit on a live traffic feed to direct police patrolling in the field. Right. And then what I can also do is in relation to the flock alert, use other law enforcement databases to get a either,  

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DME photo or other dossier. Oh, handy. So not only does he have access to all the flock data and everywhere you've been and when you've been there, but then he can also cross search that across other government databases   to get your ID photo or, you know, maybe your TSA information.  

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Of said party. So that way we don't you know, we're we're doing all of our checks before we have officers contact the vehicle. Chamberlain says they have about a 100 of these flock systems in Aurora right now. They've had license plate readers in the city for Alright. So there's sort of the,  

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pro Fort case is they're helping cops solve crime, and they could sit there at a desk and do it. And, Ange, as you know, we've talked about it before.   Flock recently partnered   with Ring cameras Mhmm. Which you can go in and opt in or out of inside in the app. But it raises concerns about long term where this data that Flock is collecting.   Goes.  

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Hi. My name is Bobby Nichols. I'm a Tempe resident of twenty five years. Bobby Nichols stands before the Tempe city council, hoping to call attention to the city's numerous flock cameras,   a system intended to capture a vehicle's fingerprint   and share the information in the name of solving crimes.   This is a clear abuse of our sensitive and personally identifying information. Nichols, now a candidate for city council not in touch. Says the cameras that are in nearly every state are used by thousands of police departments and businesses.  

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They capture every single car that passes by. They capture information about the make and model of the car, the license plate, who's driving the car, age, name, race, information like that, down to bumper stickers.  

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Flock has recently partnered with Ring Doorbell Cameras, adding even more information to their database.   He says to sell and use to train their future AI models.   Flock says it does not sell data without consent from the customer.  

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But who's the customer, Anne? Right. Who's the customer? But when the customer is police departments or businesses,  

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it's not clear where your personal information will end up. Block can   record   different,   meetings that people go to medical or religious institutions,   and can build out basically an individual schedule based on tracking   where their vehicle goes.  

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So this   is becoming an issue   everywhere. And I found a story that I wanted to tell you about   all week.   But I I held it And now's the time. Because it's so dystopian and it's so It's it? Oh, it's just everything I've been warning about. K. And, so this this comes from a channel that I will have linked in the show notes if you go to weeklylaunch.rocks.   This is the civil rights lawyer channel, and I'm gonna just play a couple of moments from his video because he has he was a lawyer involved with this case, so he has some of the he has access to some of the raw footage. Hi there. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm good. Do you know why I'm here? Yeah. So this is on a citizen's ring camera,   and a police officer has shown up at her house.  



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There was a theft of a package from  

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on Tuesday. When police, using their dystopian   flock surveillance system, saw a green Rivian truck driving down the same street in the same town   20 times over the course of a month, they became suspicious.  

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You know we have cameras in that town, and you can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing. Correct? You know we have cameras in that town, and you can't get a breath of fresh air   without us knowing it.  

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How creepy is that? You know we have cameras in that town, and we can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing. Correct? And listen how he boasts about it. Yeah.  

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Like the arrogant power that he feels filled with.   Okay. You've been driven through, what, 20 times the last this month? Oh. You're gonna stand by. You don't know why. Yeah. It's number reason number one reason why she's the suspect is because they'll get into it, but something was stolen. And so, well, she's been driving through there a lot.  

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I know.  

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And what made it even more suspicious was that the driver of that Rivian truck was a woman with blonde hair. Shocking, I know. So when a $25   package went missing from a porch in that neighborhood   that the blonde bandit was driving her $70,000   truck through on a daily basis,  

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it obviously must have been her. Am I right? Yeah. Why it just doesn't make why why would a why would a   a   why would she even be stealing a $25 package? Like, she she owns a $75,000  

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Rivian. I have you on camera Okay. Of you   taking a package and walking away. Is there any reason why you would have done that? Nope. At that point, the government did what any good dystopian government agency would do. They sent a rude, bald member of their goon squad to the woman's front door to lie to her, to gaslight her, and to threaten her. Since you're just gonna deny, I'm gonna issue you a summons that you'll be showing up in court in Jefferson County. Well, can I see this video? If you go to court, you can. If you're gonna deny it, I'm not gonna extend to any person. What? Lie to me. On September 22 How crazy is this?  

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The rest of the videos is I mean, bring your lawyers to court because that's ridiculous. So she ends up getting a summons to go to court.   And here's here's the conclusion   at all after all of this is she gets out of it,  

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but only because she had her own plethora of cameras, and the place she was at at the time had their own cameras. And so the the takeaway from the story is camera up everybody. Right. Yeah. A Denver woman says that she was wrongfully accused of theft after police tracked her car using flight cameras. Now the camera system has been a point of controversy over privacy concerns, but it's been a praise tool by police who've used it successfully to track down suspects and make arrests. But after the system was used to accuse her of a crime, one woman is warning everyone to have cameras of their own. Fox thirty one's Anna Coon sat down with her and asked her to report to Anna.  

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Hey, guys. Well, the Columbine Valley police chief has since voided the court summons against this woman, but she says she never should have been accused in the first place. She says her car was never at the address where that package was stolen.   You know we have cameras in that town, and you can't get a breath of fresh air in or out of that place without us knowing. Correct? On September 27, the Columbine Valley police officer came to Krisanna Alser's door and issued her a summons to appear in court, accusing her of stealing a $25   package in the town of Beaumont.  

The officer said he had doorbell video of the theft and had tracked her car in the area using flock cameras.  

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Locked in.  

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Not by license plate, obviously. Yeah. Well, I guess Like, how? I guess they didn't have the plate. They just had the the car The description. And the fact that she had driven through 20 times over the last few weeks. Insane.  

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There is zero doubt. I wouldn't have come here unless I was 100%  

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sure. Zero doubt. She even offers to show her own footage to him, and he refuses because he's so sure. No. And you could hear it in the way she's like, fine. You know, she's like, because this is ridiculous. Yeah. Like, you could tell the way she was responding that it was her own massively offensive. $25 package  

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that Amazon probably already replaced. The only problem with this case, she wasn't there, and she had the evidence to prove it. Dash camera video from her car, a log of her location from Google Maps, and So she had cameras on her vehicle.  

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She had Google Maps tracking her everywhere and Google recording her history, and the place she went to had a camera. So because every move and every step and every mile she drove was recorded,   she's out of this. Which so is this is if she didn't do all of that. Right? How?  

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How would she even Yeah.  

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Crazy. Dash camera video from her car, a log of her location from Google Maps, and doorbell video of her walking into her Taylor's house when the package was stolen. He just kept telling me that any evidence I had wasn't worth it. Because you have not been honest with me, so I'm not going to send you any courtesy of showing you a video when I don't need But I can show you video No. You cannot. I'm not After a few weeks, Elser was able to get in touch with the police chief who wrote her in an email, quote, after reviewing evidence you have provided, nicely done, by the way, you have voided the summons that was issued. But Elser says she shouldn't have needed to prove her innocence and worries flock cameras can paint a picture police will rely too heavily on. Oh, you think? Mhmm. For $25  

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package gross. Isn't that wild? I'll have the story linked to the show notes if you wanna see the entire one. And so that went down just a few weeks ago,   and then a week or two after that   now this is in the Colorado area just outside of Denver.   Just a week or two after that, the Denver mayor extends their flock camera contract,   and he did it by bypassing the city council. Battle between privacy and policing  

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is on full display in Denver today as mayor Mike Johnson extended the city's flock license plate plate reader cameras without city council's approval. What? This has been a hot button issue for,  

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as we've heard from Denver neighborhoods for several months now. Just this summer, dozens of residents took their concerns to the city after city council decided not to renew flocks contract, but the city kept the cameras rolling.   We were there as they pushed for rules and regulation   moving forward when it comes to who can access the cameras.  

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One camera   scam can lead to a traffic stop. That traffic stop can lead to ICE custody, family separation,   deportation,  

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and detention. No government should be surveilling its people, should be monitoring its people, and should be seeking to control its people.  

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Well,   I mean, but when when you outsource it, it's fine. Right? And here in Washington, it's stirring up quite a bit of controversy too. In fact, right in my neck of the woods,   a very savvy I wish I would have thought of this tattoo artist in our local area   decided   to try to get access to some of these records using Freedom of Information request Oh. And sparked a massive controversy in a little tiny town   that's just really known for working people that are working inside some little manufacturing stuff and a little defense stuff up in the Sedgwick Willie area. A court ruling today raises new concerns about the cameras that dozens of Washington police departments use to catch criminals. Glad you're with us at 06:30. I'm Greg Copeland. I'm Joyce Taylor. King five was the only TV news crew in the courtroom for that interesting? Really? Isn't that interesting? Are we sure? Well and you noticed the last clip said that too. Why are they only letting one media outlet in? It sounds like they're only letting one media. Why?  

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For today's hearing, as our investigator, Chris Ingalls, reports, the Skagit County case has implications   statewide.  

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Here in Sidra Woolly, where cowboys,   loggers, and railroad barons built this historic town,   new technology has been helping catch criminals. I have to say,  

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my heart sank when I saw these go in in Sidra Woolly because you just think of it as this little podunk.   You know, nobody really goes to Sidra Wooley unless you live there and you're working there. And it was just really strange to see these go up. It was sad. It's also a part of the Cascade Loop, which is a   very, very popular   tourist route in the summer. So all the tourists that are driving on this are gonna get snapped now.  

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A half dozen or so flock brand cameras are mounted along the busiest streets.   These cameras can keep an eye out for stolen cars or vehicles that suspects use to commit their crimes.  

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But They always go to that. Mhmm.   It's it's that's always the lead. You know, they're great for solving crimes.  

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But earlier this year, Sidra Wooley shut all its cameras down and asked a judge to settle a case involving a public records request. You're a tattoo artist? Yes. Who files public records requests?  

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Yeah. On my free time. Yeah. Josef, you know, would it be great? Couldn't or, like, or any Would it be great if king five did that? Would it be great if king five did that? In fact, listen to the way so you know what they're doing here. Listen to the way he sets up the framing of this entire interview. It's like he never thought of these things. Mhmm.  

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Rodriguez,   who works in Walla Walla, is an ordinary citizen.   He filed requests asking for images from flock cameras with dozens of police agencies.   Many complied, and his records, some of which are shown here, revealed that flock cameras are shooting images all the time of passing cars and passengers.  

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No crap. Yeah. King five.  

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You were worried about abuse of this system.  

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What? I felt like that's, I don't know, by the name of all of my privacy, everyone's privacy, regardless if you are opening the law or not. It's not like they, traffic like a   traffic light camera that takes pictures of old people that are breaking the law by speeding or whatever. It's sort of taking pictures of every single vehicle that passed by. He calls it surveillance by big brother.  

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Sidra Woolley He calls it denied his records request and All rise claims.   Took Rodriguez to civil court. They sued him.  

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What?  

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If I had tried to do this for the podcast, we would be in court right now. Freedom of Information Act request? Well, because they this is the thing is they are all   hyper concerned about losing this fantastic   tool. This is crazy. And they, you know, and that's why the media always positions it as this thing that helps the police solve crime. And every time state or city officials talk about it, they glaze it as this incredible safety tool that has no privacy downsides   because you can trust them. They're here to serve and protect, and they would never abuse or use this date in any way. And there would never be a gal that has a cop show up and bully her for a half hour because they misunderstood the data or misused it. That could never happen because they're the guardians of our safety, and they're the ones that have access.  

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This is a fairly specific issue regarding a very valuable,   and,   effective law enforcement tool. A very valuable.  

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Okay. Effective law enforcement tool. I mean, this is how they talk about it. And so this is this and so they come in. So this guy is like, yeah. I want a Freedom Information Request. And then they come at him with a lawsuit,   and the the Under attack. Come into it is like, you are threatening   an absolutely vital safety tool of the public. How could you? Like, this is their counter attack, and I find it obviously   very offensive and infuriating.   It's such What was grounds for counter suing? Like, what   Well, you see, this could this could threaten their access to this extremely valuable tool because, well, well, it turns out the information here is extremely private. Is it is, in fact, identifying, and so they can't just give it to anybody.  

That's for the reason. I just don't that's not a lawsuit. And I know. And it's not just a denial of the freedom. I mean, you know, like, it's on this presumption that the public is okay with them having that information, and that is not the case. Right. A very valuable,  

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and,  

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effective law enforcement tool. Today, the attorney for Sidra Woolly and Stanwood, which also denied the records request, said making flock images public would violate the privacy of individuals,   and it would make them available to requesters with bad intent  

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like stalkers. Then they should shut it down. Mhmm.  

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This   is about  

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ensuring that this technology is is utilized in an appropriate manner. An appropriate manner? I mean, listen to her. Appropriate and the safety of our public. It's so infuriating. The way they twist all of this. It is clearly a controversial technology that has many draw draw downs or bad downsides.   And so at least at the very minimum, we should talk about in a balanced way of the pros and cons of this tool and admit that if we're gonna implement something like this, we are accepting these downsides. And we shouldn't be glazing people that they are these bastions of public safety tools and there's absolutely no problem with it when we've been documenting the problems on the regular. Ensuring that this technology is is utilized in an appropriate manner. This court case follows a University of Washington report last month that found federal agents  

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accessed Washington flock cameras,  

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possibly in violation of a state law prohibiting their use for immigration purposes. I think a lot of cities are are discovering right now that we don't know who all has access to this. Alright. So that's going on in Washington, and there's a big debate, if it should continue or not, and they're going after people.   And then in, I believe in North Carolina Hillsborough,  

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they canceled their flock contracts because of public concerns. That's nice to see. Instead of suing the public, they're actually listening. There will be no license plate readers in Hillsborough, at least for now. Commissioners have decided to terminate that contract for a company called Flock Safety,  

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cameras. They did so because they say their privacy concerns. At CBS seventeen's Ben Bokun reports, the town might end up losing the money spent by taxpayers.  

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Less than twenty four hours ago, 10 of these license plate camera readers were slated to be installed across the town of Hillsborough. Some people in Hillsborough went to leaders expressing their concerns with the technology.  

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I see something like this, and I'm like,   did y'all not, like,   read about all of the things that have happened with this?  

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Yeah. Did y'all not   read the Internet or listen to the launch?   That's right. Come on.   Now the thing is is when when this sort of thing happens, people have to stay really vigilant because,   Flock has a response team that coordinates with the decision makers in these cities and essentially reengages the sales process. They wanna have a conversation.  

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And, that conversation probably involves, like, a discount if you sign back up, those kinds of things. Only on CBS seventeen, flock safety is still pushing for license plate readers in the town of Hillsborough. This week, commissioners voted to terminate the contract for the flock safety cameras, but the company is trying to change their mind. CBS seventeen has been bugging us in Hillsborough tonight speaking with a flock representative   about the next steps.  

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Over the summer, the town of Hillsborough entered an agreement with flock safety for 10 of these license plate camera readers. But earlier this week, Hillsborough canceled the contract due to concerns about data privacy. Flock retains the right to all the data,  

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and can share it to third parties and government agencies   and very vague language,   that  

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made us realize that the system was being going to be used by other entities other than the town of Pillsbury. And that is absolutely not what we had signed up for. That's the entire point. And that's why Flock wants as many people in the system as possible. Yeah. And the Flock representatives are like, well, I mean, maybe you're not being very charitable charitable how you're reading the language. I think you could you could interpret that language in multiple ways is is their official response. Mhmm.   But the thing about these lock cameras is there is across the nation, we're starting to see a pushback on people that don't want these. They don't like them. They want them out of their city.  

And, you know, and I wish we could have ended up in a in a future where,   like, if if we're gonna do this, make it possible for me to benefit.   You know? Like, if we had a if we had a if we had a solid public cryptographic system where I have I have, like, a public key private key system, and I could verify and prove who I was, Give me access to this. Right? Like, what if okay. If the flock camera picks me up on my way home, turn the heat on at home. You know, as I get close, open up the garage door for me. Why not? Why can't I pull let let me pull that in and make you smart home. Yeah.   Let me integrate it. I mean, let's let's give me access to that data. I'll verify my my public and private key stuff, and it's all signed, and we're good to go. Flock is a private company.  

Yeah. And they're collecting the public's information. And they've recently signed deals with AI training Yeah. This is crazy. Companies too. It is. It's crazy. Seems a little crazy. Right? If only someone would have known.   Chris   was right.   Who could have seen it coming?   Next time, just ask Chris first.   Alright. Do do do do do. You like that? Yeah. Now it is time for our track of the week.  

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Well, I'm just gonna make a quick call to my launch. I haven't checked in since yesterday.   (774)   462-5667.   That's it. Alright. (774)   462-5667.   Call now.  

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Call us after the track of the week if you like. Or if you're listening after the fact, that's your chance to leave a voice mail. Now as we get to our track of the week, remember that we'll use the magic wallet switching technology. So when you boost during the music, 95% of your sats go to our artist. Now's the time. It's the song of the week. Remember,  

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you can boost the track.  

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They sure like that. And this week, it's Heidi j Masters, and it's her song Run to Safer Ground.  

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I hate how it feels   lying in the fields,   hunting   for empathy   while it looks away from me. Hiding in the shadows   of distant   memory.   Lost without a reason,   Lost and fractured dreams I'm searching as I'm near.   Run to safer grounds across the rivers   of land.   Echoes in your mind,   rise.   Bookprints fading   in the sun,   don't find my place   and take   a   stand.  

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And   now, on with the show.  

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Well, I'm just gonna make a quick call to my launch. I haven't checked in since yesterday.   (774)   462-5667.   That's it. Alright. (774)   462-5667.  

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Call now. We need some new Hank clips.  

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Yeah. I like that Hank. I know. I do too.  

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Alright. We got ourselves six voice mails. Oh. I know. Yeah. It was, like, two   early this morning when I got in or three. It was three.   And then by the time we went on there, it was six. How do you like that? And our first one,   it's Mark,   and he's back.  

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Hey, guys.   Mark from Northern Michigan calling. It's Friday night Hello? 03:00   on my way home.   Today started in San Luis Potosi, Mexico at 6AM.   And after two flights and a three and a half hour drive, I hope to be home.   But I was enjoying listening to the podcast.   I can't. Thanks as always.   And I thank you also for the advice on   the the boosting.   My plan this week is to see if I can get that boosted.   Thanksgiving   Thanksgiving   for us bounces from home to home each year. We have it at our place. We have it at the in law's place. The only requirements for me is I have to cook the turkey,   and I have to make green bean casserole because   I've been told my green bean casserole is the best   in the world. Recipe passed down from my mom,   her mom, but,   lots of cheese.  

But,   that's our tradition.   My wife, Billy, she makes everything else. I just have to make the turkey in the green bean casserole.   Talk to you next week. Have a great weekend. Happy Friday, Mark. Nice. I have a critical  

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question that I would have liked to have included   have you include in that voice mail, and that is   you said you're bouncing from house to house, which is something we used to have to do a lot.   And transporting the turkey   is a real skill. Like, are you transporting it raw and cooking it at destination? Are you cooking it for me? On the way? Yeah. Like, bringing it in the cooler? I hope you're brining it. Mhmm. But   Out and brown. Like, what are you doing? What's that process there? That's whoo. That's tricky. Thank you for the call.   Now we had a caller who makes time for the launch even when they're in middle in the middle of a job or a task. Hey. Hey. You want don't you want the package?  



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Yeah.   Yeah. It's it's yours. Hang on. No. I'm on I'm on I'm on the phone with the launch. It's a show it's a show.   Here. Hang on. I got I'll I'll scan it. Just give me just a second. Yeah. Hang on.   Alright. There you go. Yep. Oh, sorry. I can't I can't be friendly. I'm on the phone with the launch.   I it's the launch. It's a show.   I'm on the phone with them.  

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You can't be friendly is that? Yeah. Yeah. He's talking to us.   That must have been happening to my package the other day, and I got a little distracted.   Okay. Now we got a call from across the pond from Paul.  

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Hi. I'm Paul here with your voice booth from Austria.   Right now, I'm cooking an Austrian dish called.   The closest thing you have on the other side of the pond would be macaroni and cheese. The main difference is a different kind of pasta, and I would also guess a different kind of cheese too. I'm using Gorder.   One week late, but I was reminded that I wanted to boost in about a long series   of books or audiobooks.   I've just finished the Expanse audiobook as well and I'm currently listening and can recommend the Dragon Riders of Pern series by Anne McGeoffrey. Okay. It is about a distant settlement on a planet far from Earth which fell back in a medieval environment.   Regular topics include dealing with a regular   natural catastrophe   specific to this planet, sicknesses, romance, and dragons. Ah. It is not one large story, but each book, a story arc, plays in a different point in the timeline  

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between the start of the settlement and several hundred years later. Yeah. There are overlaps between the stories and some characters appear in multiple stories, just not always as main characters. It's enjoyable. Anyway, this is my recommendation. Check it out if you're interested. Have a nice show. Thank you. That sounds like a great recommendation. I sent you a link in Telegram. Alright. And you can probably play just a small amount of it. There's gonna be an ad first, so I will vamp for you. But An ad. I love the accent. Paul's accent there? I love it. Yeah. He was yeah. And I and, also, he made me hungry. Yeah. Dang. Sounds good. It sounds like a good nice Thanksgiving side dish he's talking about there. Alright. This is Andrew's,   random link there.  

Handsome dancer.  

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It his accent reminded me of this.  

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The first man's name was Keke. He'll wear such little pants. His brother was to champion, but Keke loved to dance.  

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Yeah. We can't play too much of it. But okay. So when I first heard of this song,   I was my office was in the open area upstairs, right, which is now converted to a bedroom,   like, with official wall. Anyway,   and I I bought it. I turned it up. I hit play. Yeah. And then I turned around and focused on Dylan's door. I had my phone recording video.   He   swung his door open. He's like, I don't know, eight or nine. Yeah. He's holding his Pokemon cards. He throws them up in the air and just starts dancing out his door.   It was so and I I have not found that video. I'm I don't know if I accidentally deleted it or what, but, oh, I mean, it's in my brain Yeah. Forever. I will oh, and it was so I you couldn't be I it's   Love it. He's my son. It's so good. Throws the card. It was so great.  



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Matt from Florida called in. Yep.  

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Yep. Oh my gosh. Mhmm. Oh. Hey. This is Matt m from Clearwater, Florida.   Well, you got me. You've been asking for a long time,   and I figured I should call in as a regular fan of a lot of Jupyter Broadcasting   shows.   So what I'd like to ask Chris and Angela and everybody,   what are some of your favorite tricks with keyboards?   I recently got my first mechanical keyboard,   10 keyless. So my favorite thing has been to remap caps lock so that it's a modifier that turns   part of the letters on my right hand   into a number pad. Oh. So   maybe that's useful, and I'd love to hear some other tips and tricks from everybody else.  



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Thanks. Bye. Cheers, Matt. Okay. First of all, mechanical keyboard, Tula. Oh, yeah. That's that's my problem. Second of all, I need 10 key. I would always have a 10 key. But they do make, well, USB, but a lot of computers don't have USB ports anymore, the standard USB. You wrapped your noodle around  

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replacing caps lock and make it do something else? Because when's the last time you used caps lock?  

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Yeah. I don't. But, you know, I went to college with somebody who who used it as shift. Really? Yeah. They had no idea. So they would put caps lock on to do a capital and then turn it back off. I'm just wondering why don't I use caps lock as, like, a launcher key? Like, I always do these combinations, like, alt space and stuff. I do use it. You do? Yeah. I yell. Yeah. But don't you just hold down shift?   Not always. Really? Well, not if it's I mean, because sometimes it's like a you know? I I don't think I've hit the caps lock key for caps   in fifteen years. Okay. I do oh, okay. Well, I oh, no. I definitely I just if I mean, because I get I got no. I can I use it fairly regularly? I can just go I can go crazy with my finger on the shift. I can doesn't slow me down. I don't know. For sure. Yeah. It's boom boom boom boom. I mean, I'll shout it right out holding down. Yeah. I mean, shouting a word. I'll put the extra work in. Yeah. No. I'll shift it. But if I am, like, needing to make my point.  



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So I'll tell you what I really love are these Elgato Stream Decks.   And they're little OLED buttons, and you can have them do all kinds of functions and stuff, which is how I control some of the stuff. It is so cool. Yeah. So, like, there's the bell. Right? Pull it up. Pull it up to the camera. Can you? Yeah. And I think so. Probably, of course. But they're pretty popular. The people a lot of people knows about them. And they have different sizes. They have smaller ones and bigger ones. And you can program them to run all kinds of stuff. Super cool. Then the real sweet part is you combine them with a piece of software called Bitfocus   Bitfocus Companion.  

And then you can essentially use this to control, like, 255   different things. It's like what what like, home assistant or   your recording program or a television   or all kinds of things, your smart lights, whatever it is. So,   actually in here, I have the ability to also from from my stream deck right here on the table, I'm sitting here, I can I can turn off the lights in the studio? Oh. And then I can turn them back on all from the stream deck. So when I sit down, I just hit buttons and things get going. It's it's really Okay. It's pretty great. Send me a link to that. Yeah. You'd love it. Yeah. If you had a few things you want to add or you do reoccurring and you just wanna add a button to, the Elgato stream deck. I know it wasn't quite what he was asking for. Sorry, Matt. But Like, the cat, Elgato?   Is that a cat? E l g a t o, I think? Yeah. Stream deck.  

Yep.  

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Alright. Now our buddy Magnolia Mayhem called in.   Oh, man. I better call in. I'm I'm not gonna be able to well, I might make it live to the show. We'll see. We'll see if I have reception.   It's Magnolia. Hey, Magnolia.   Mhmm. Was gonna boost, but my Albi hub's down right now, and I'm   working. So I'm not gonna be able to make it to the show. Figured it might as well call.   And   oh, yeah. I remember where I was gonna call about Okay. Couple of weeks ago now. Oh. But I   I find it a little disturbing how   all the number of people   have gone up. The percentages have gone way down   and people that are actually getting active with stuff. And it it it came about with the whole conversation about Discord and open source moving to the the closed source things or something like that. But is there something we can do   to   push people back towards open source stuff? Or do we even need to do that? Should we do that?  

Or should we just let the people who wanna go to things like   Matrix   come on over just because they want to?   Superthought.   Anyway, I'll try to make it   with or without. Either way, thanks for the show. Thank you. It's a good question.  

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I think a lot of these things like Matrix and Once Upon a Time, Mastodon, they sort of they're not in a they don't toil in obscurity, but they kind of they run below the surface and the geeks know about it and stuff like that. And then something changes and there becomes a wider market need for it, and then it becomes more popularly adopted sometimes. Mhmm. Yeah. It does concern me how much of the open source community is locking up their community in Discord.  

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Mayhem called back though. He had a little rant to get into. Oh. And another thing. Oh, okay. I know that I already said it matrix,   and   and I've already said it to plenty of people before, but I not enough people have heard this. The reason I'm working today is because I came in yesterday from getting called in, and somebody taped, hey.   Be at work at 09:00 tomorrow onto my case, and it was already, like, 07:00 in the afternoon. I'm not happy about that. I I wanna tell the world. I'm a say it on the podcast. I'm a say it on the podcast. Just do. I don't care. Just do. You don't tell somebody come in tomorrow by taking a piece of paper   to to where they work saying come in tomorrow at 9AM.  

It's not okay. It's a good prank. It. There's a way to do it. Thanks for your time to talk. You got it. Yeah. You're welcome.  

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Now we did get some boost into the show, another great way to, get your word in and support us while you're doing it. Oh, and I think we got a live boost, so I'm grabbing it live right now.   How do you like that, Andrews? Yeah. I remember to grab it. Not during the music, but I at least remember to grab it. Yep. So I'm getting better at it. Alright. Are you ready to kick it off? Mhmm. Let's let's give some thanks to the peeps starting right now.  

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And now it is time for the boost.  

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And mister Turd Ferguson comes in as our baller booster. Hey,  

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Richard.  

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Got it at a good price this week, 21,000  

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sats. Turd Ferguson.  

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Are you a shower person or a bath person? I think the bath is like sitting in a soup of your own mess,   but I'd like to hear someone make the case.  

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Alright. Well, I'm definitely a shower person. I have curly hair. Gotta wet it down every day. I don't have time for a bath. That's true. That does take a long time to fill a bathtub. Yeah. But I also have just, like, some ridiculous   history with water. I was allergic to the well water growing up, so I really tried to keep my hands out of water. So even when I take a bath, I don't have my hands in the water.   I do like to have soaks, but since I'm   allergic to a quick change in body temperature, I can't do those anymore,   or at least do them rarely.  

Yeah. Definitely a shower person. Shower.   Shower is so much quicker. Like, three to five minutes   tops. Wow. That is yeah. Yeah. I don't like water waste. Water waste really,  

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really does be mad. I'm a ten minute shower guy.   So I'm not a little bit longer, but, I got a process down.  

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Pretty efficient process. Yeah. Okay. Did you teach Dylan to plug the bathtub while he showers? No. I don't like that. Okay. Well, I think he learned that here at the studio. Not a fan. Me either.   It's it's right above my office. I can hear it sloshing around. Why would you wanna do that? I I I don't know.   I don't know why he does it.  

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Maybe he's trying to give his feet feet a bath. Maybe.   I probably take a bath once or twice a year if I, like, hurt myself, like a leg or a or a back injury or something like that, like an old man. Yeah.   Then I don't have a bathtub in Lady Jupp's   either. So that's a factor. And pools are human soup. That's true. Disgusting. We put a lot of chemicals in there Yeah. So we can tell ourselves it's better,   I guess.   I don't know. I don't I couldn't I can't make the case for the bath. I can't make I cannot No. If I had to choose one for the rest of my life, it would totally be showers. Yeah. 100%. I feel the same way.   Alright. Thank you, Turd. Paul comes in with 3,500  

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sats. Coming in hot with the boost.  

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Oh, and that this is how I got Paul's link to his voice mail. He says, here is the book series, The Dragon Riders of Pern by Anne McCaffrey,   in case you missed it. Oh, and he sent us a picture of what he cooked too.   Oh, no. I'm gonna get even more hungry.   Wow.   So it's it's more like a spaghetti noodle. Yeah. It's, An Alfredo?   Yeah. It does look more like an Alfredo   in a way, but then it's baked in a cast iron pan. Yes.   That does seem really good. Why don't we do why don't we eat while we do this show? I don't think No. People be fine with it. Nope. No. You would love it. No. That's great.   I would die. Thank you, Paul. Appreciate the voice mail and the boost. Otterbang Otterbrain comes in with five Otterbang with 5,000 sats. The traders love the ball. The lodge comes at the perfect time to get me through the week. Awesome. It's a fun show, and I enjoy listening to you guys.  



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I wonder if they listen live. Oh, they must. No? Thank you for helping us help you help us all. Oh, this was yesterday. Yesterday. Or, yeah, it comes in Wednesday, you know, when just when they're going about their day. Nice. Appreciate that. You're doing very well.  

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Retro gear comes in with 6,532  

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sets. I don't understand what the heck is going on here.  

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State of privacy in Western Australia. Better or worse than the flock cameras? Cheers and keep up the great work. He sent me a link to the switch. Yeah. It looks like essentially they're doing the flock thing. Yeah. Only it's not flock cameras. I think it's a different brand.   Boy. Yeah. It it makes sense to be around the world, doesn't it? It's gonna be   everywhere. But thank you for sending that. I had not seen that retro gear. Appreciate that. Byte bitten comes in with 2,000.   I went with a basic home automation setup. Look at them already getting back. What I do what I do and what in what range is essentially the question. The auto lighting based on 24 gigahertz motion sensors and, living room. Per room heating also based on sensors. I keep it simple. And the hub the sensor devices are all swappable with a dump equivalent. Oh, that's a nice backup.   Yeah. That is nice. And, you know, things like ZigBee and Z Wave I know it's particularly in Z Wave, but also ZigBee, you can pair devices directly to each other so they don't actually have to go through a hub even. So even if your smart controller is offline, you can still use the stuff.  

It's pretty nice. Alright. It wasn't it wasn't a blowout week, but we had a couple of good weeks in a row, so it would make sense we might have a little bit of a refactor week here on the show. We stacked,   2,500   stats from the streamers.   Oh, man.   That's  

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Mhmm.  

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But we do appreciate you, sats streamers. And then when you combine it with our boosters, we got 40,200   and,   you know, 82.  

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This is not bad. This is not it's not bad. And we also have the app Zap? Oh, we do? Don't. Oh, no. Well, I mean, we have it available. Oh, we do. Yes. Yeah. I don't know if we've gotten it. If you don't have your,  

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probably set up. But now I'm realizing maybe I didn't check the website. Well, it's at weeklylaunch.rocks/zap,zap.zap.   It's webzap. And you can use Stripe or Onchain or whatever the f. You know, I'll I'll try to pull it. But so we got 40,282   sats.   So thank you, everybody. Not killer, but still appreciate it. And, of course, thank you to our members,   the Jupyter Party who gets the booty.   Appreciate you very much.   And, you can join us at jupyter.party   and put your support on the autopilot.   Thank everybody who grabs a fountain or is a oddly hubs or whatever it is, and they boost into the show and support us directly. We appreciate that too. Okay, Andrews. K. That's it.   I have one brilliant idea for you before we go though.  

Now, you know, for team,   spirit,   collaboration,   culture, as they say. It's sometimes it's important to get together, maybe you have a little sprint.   And I found the perfect VRBO   for us.   Okay. It's $535   a night. Typically, though, $624   a night. So we're giving you great deal. Already. Yep. So I figure six nights. Oh. Yep. $3,057.  

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Okay. Not bad. Yep. Wait. How many people? Well, it sleeps 13. Oh,  

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nice. Four bedrooms.  

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No.  

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Yeah. Okay. But is there a queen bunk bed? Because There is some bunk bed. I don't know if they're queen. Oh, okay. Three bathrooms. I think you could probably fairly describe this as   a party house.   It's also the only accommodation in the area which offers a heated indoor swimming pool, a jacuzzi hot tub Indoor? A stream room, a sauna, a full gym, and heated gazebos. Okay. Can I scroll down? Yeah. Take a look at this. Okay. I want you to open up the pictures of this, and you're gonna have to describe it Oh, boy. For the audience Okay. What you're seeing here. And just  

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get scrolling on that for a minute. Bring up the photos. 83 photos. Yeah. There's too many photos. Alright. So they show somebody getting a massage near the pool. Looks nice. Equipment in the background. Yep. Like, equipment being, exercise equipment. Let me know when you get down to the kitchen. Okay. Yeah. That's The pool looks amazing. Yeah. It's a pool house. With the exercise equipment along the pool is a great idea. Okay. I love the third or the fourth picture Uh-huh. Where they took a picture in the mirror. Yeah. Like, that's really cool. Alright. Here's a bedroom Yep. Keep going. With a wood wood stove. Sure. Sure. Oh my gosh. Well, you're making me nervous.   Okay.  

More exercise equipment, another bedroom, very small.  

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Uh-huh. Let me know let me know. I'm in the shower. Okay. Shower. You can get to Bedroom. Uh-huh. Did you get to the dining room and the interior?  

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No. No. I'm still bedroom, bathroom. What's your first red flag when you get there? Okay.   Alright. Living room. Uh-huh. Looks normal. Okay.   You know, wrap around couch,   TV. You didn't notice anything weird? What? In the living room? No.  

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You didn't notice anything peculiar about the photos?  

[00:57:50] Unknown:

Well, I see a painting in the background. Okay. Good. There's some paintings. Yeah. There is definitely some paintings.   Oh, there's a woman   painting. Uh-huh. Okay. Bathroom, bedroom,   chocolate coins. Nice.   Okay. Why okay. I'm on Picture 27,   dining room,   flowers.   That's a total red flag. Flowers on the   what? I don't know oh.  

[00:58:17] Unknown:

Who do you see?  

[00:58:19] Unknown:

What do you see? The side of the kitchen island has an Illuminati symbol. Scroll down Scroll down a little bit further there. Scroll down? Just a little bit further. Keep going. Oh, keep going that picture. Oh, well, I'm doing the side scroll. Oh, I see. I see. Yeah. Alright. Break time,   cookies,   a dog.  

[00:58:34] Unknown:

We're getting close.  

[00:58:35] Unknown:

Weird. The kitchen island is a piece of glass raised up. That's interesting.   What? I don't understand.   What? Am I not there? I'm not there yet. You're not there yet. Okay.   I am there now. How creepy is that? That is really creepy. Okay. So they are What are they?   Well, it's three people   in red hooded sheets Uh-huh. Or blankets   wearing masks.   Yep. One is a raven Yeah. With steampunk glasses.   Okay.   This is funny.   Why?   Yeah. They're on the roof? They're all over the place. They keep going. Alright. So I got through the first 34   pictures with no people, and now every picture after that has people. And they're weird. This is weird.  



[00:59:22] Unknown:

Oh my gosh. The smoking one? Yeah. The vaping one. The vaping one. Oh, is it vaping? I well, I assume he's vaping. Yeah. Yeah. Why he's why he's, hovering over somebody while they're And they're they're point red pointed hoods. Yeah. What the heck? Yeah. Yeah.   And I don't know. To me, there's,   weird implications in some of these photos. Yeah.   I do like they have a podcast studio and a theater room, but they also have what seems to be   what they have labeled as a miscellaneous   chamber.   And it's a closing room that's both glass and has a curtain, and it has two ladies making out in there. It's not the sauna?  

[00:59:57] Unknown:

Also, go to Image 55.  

[01:00:00] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:00:02] Unknown:

I do love the guy. I do love this guy with the grill. Yeah. Yeah. But but that's not the focus of the picture. That's just the four. The background  

[01:00:10] Unknown:

is another red Oh, you're right. Hooded person. I didn't see that. They sneak him in there.   That's so weird. It's so weird. I don't get it. It seems like a great house, but then they have all these Illuminati photos and, like, people making out. And Is is red hooded an an Illuminati thing? I don't know. I don't know anything about it. With the eye on it in the kitchen. No. I know. Yeah. I definitely recognize that. It's such a weird angle. Like, I know everything needs a brand and, like, a story now to make a sale. Yeah.   I love that they does it. It comes with a podcast studio, though. Yeah. So there's things I like about this. I love it. Picture 76.  



[01:00:44] Unknown:

They're in the outdoor theater where there's a screen   projector. They're watching a cat. And they're holding up you notice they're holding up triangles. They're all making triangle shape with their hands. Not. In a previous one, they were doing a heart, so I didn't even pay attention this time because I figured it was more hearts. Yep. Yep.  

[01:00:58] Unknown:

Weird. So, I mean Weird. Weird. Wouldn't this be a hell of a spot?   It's it's got room for all of us. You know? It's got a built in podcast studio   where you can record stuff. So we don't even have to worry about that anymore. Interesting. Well, that that would be a good, podcast team sprint Right? Location. Seems like you'd have a lot of good energy. Mhmm. You know, the the the the the it   was fun.   Yeah. Okay. There you have it. They they have multiple rooms, including,   what appears to be what they call a love den. And, there's a mini fridge in the love den if you get thirsty.   So a lot of value there. Yep.  



[01:01:43] Unknown:

Book it for the holidays. They have four twin futons.  

[01:01:47] Unknown:

They didn't focus too much on the sleeping accommodation. No. More of what you do while you're awake, I guess. Not so much while you sleep. Oh, they have bidets.   Yeah. Well, you wanna be clean in that set. Three of them. Yeah. You know, all that swimming and loving. Do they have in the rules no party?   Absolutely not. Good. They do not at all. Absolutely not. No. They do not. Trust me when I say that.   Alright. We are gonna wrap it up right there. If you wanna see the party house or anything else we talked about, we have links at weeklylaunch.rocks.   We'll be live next Tuesday. You can catch it in your podcast app if you got a 2.0 app or over at jblive.tv   on the Tuesdays. Or, you know, get it on the, download   after the fact   on the Wednesdays. Of course, shout out to editor Drew who always makes us sound real good. He gets it all cleaned up for us.  

Alright. That's it from the beautiful Pacific Northwest   and the mighty American West Coast. Thank you for listening to this episode of The Launch, and we will see you right back here next week.