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This is the launch, episode 35 for September 9th, 2025. Streaming from the beautiful Pacific Northwest and the mighty American West Coast, we greet you all a good morning, a good evening, whenever your timeline may fall, time-appropriate greetings, indeed to one and all. This is The Launch, and my name is Chris. And I'm Angela. Hello, Angela. Hello. Big show, so let's get to a few things before we get into it. We'd love it if you gave us a call. You can do it during the show or after the fact and leave a voicemail. The phone number is 774-462-5667. I want you to put that in your contact list. Just call it The Lunch.
I'll give it to you again. It is 774-462-5667. You can also join us live on Tuesdays. It's a live vibe. Start at 11.30 in Pacific, 2.30 p.m. Eastern, 7.30 p.m. UTC at jblive.tv or in your podcasting 2.0 app of choice. Been going already all morning long because today is the big Apple day. In fact, the counter for the live stream right now, clock in at 2 hours, 24 minutes. Links to what we talk about today at weeklylaunch.rocks. So rumor has it, It's time for a new mouse. Yeah, I think so. You mean like a computer mouse or do you mean like? Oh, yeah, no, no.
Okay, because with you, it could be a pet. Yeah, right? No, no, no. Gypsy caught a rat and left it on the mat a couple days ago. Oh, rats are fun. Yeah. Was it a big one? It was a big one, and it was missing its tail. That got it. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So, yeah. By the time I picked it up, the rigor mortis had set in. Oh, come on. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, boy. Okay, well, anyway, yeah, I'm thinking it is time for a new mouse. I have a Logitech mouse. I can't remember which one. And I tried to look in my Amazon history and I ordered one in 2009, but I think it was for something else. I don't know.
It's kind of a smaller one. It is a smaller one. It does have customizable buttons and a scroll wheel. So there's a couple of things. The scroll wheel, like it has two settings. It has the click or the smooth and it's not quite working right anymore. So that's one thing. So I'm just not sure what to do because I'm pretty fluid with mice. Like when the kids were younger, they'd be sitting in my lap and I'd hold them with my dominant arm, my right arm. And so I learned to left mouse so I can left mouse. That's not a problem. So you're by mouse you all?
Yeah, by mouse you all. All right, good. Yes. Makes it easier. Mompreneur or whatever. You're a mompreneur that's by mouse you all. Yes. Yes. And let's see. So my setup is I have a widescreen monitor. I have my personal computer using that monitor. And then I have my work laptop also using that monitor. I have a switch so that I can use the same mouse and keyboard between the two computers. But each of the computers also has a magic mouse, a dedicated magic mouse. Okay, I'm following you. And I use the magic mouse specifically for side-scrolling in my data sheets, right? Because I side-scroll all the time.
I'm wondering if I can't just consolidate this into one trackpad mouse or... Or I don't even know. You would be down for a trackpad? You would use a trackpad? I think I am fluid when it comes to mice. So the only caveat is my allergies, right? It cannot have metal on it and it cannot have rubber on it. And that's the biggest thing that has stopped me from changing out my Logitech is so many mice have like that non-slip rubber. Silicone is okay, but rubber, not so much. Well, I would, my first thought would be, I mean, I'd love to hear what the audience would suggest too, because I'm not proud of my suggestion.
And I think there's a better one out there. Okay. But there is the Apple Magic Mouse trackpad standalone. Oh. Like the one, and it's glass. Oh. Yeah. Interesting. That might be better for, you know, allergies. And I could use it for both computers without, because right now I do have two Magic mice, you know, because they are Bluetooth or wireless or whatever. Right. I don't want to have to worry about disconnecting and connecting and such. Huh. Yeah. A magic mouse. I don't love the magic mice. What I've gone for, and I'll put a link to this in the show. Let's see if I can find it right now.
So you've just got a big mouse ball. Well, here I do. In the studio, I have a track ball. It's like three inches in diameter or something. That's interesting. And it's wireless. It's huge. It's a Kingston track ball. Oh, it is wireless. Interesting. And the track ball itself is just about the size of a pool ball. Oh, you just pulled it right out. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's about the size of a pool ball. This, I only use in here, in the Studs, because I want something that doesn't drag on the table and make noise and get picked up on mic. Oh, of course.
So that's why I go here. I see. Now, I don't remember paying this much. I think the prices are up. But the mouse that I have at home to help with RSI, not what I'm suggesting for you necessarily. Right, I don't have that issue, but yeah. But it's the MX Vertical. It is really comfortable. And one of the nice things the MX Vertical does is it supports, you can use just a wireless dongle that you plug into a USB port, Or, and this is the part I think you might like, you can also pair it wirelessly with three different computers and it has a little selector on the bottom of the mouse, one, two, three, and whichever one you select it does the connection for.
So that's sort of nice to move it between machines. Oh, that looks weird. Wait, which one is it? Yeah. The MX Vertical by Logitech. Yeah. And it is a very comfortable mouse to use, but it is a very awkwardly designed mouse. It takes a minute because... Visually, yeah, I am confused. And the difference is, and why it's really good for RSI is you don't, so if you picture your hand on top of a mouse, and you picture moving your hand to go select something on the screen, a lot of that motion is in your wrist. Yeah.
With the vertical, because you're holding the mouse vertically, you don't move your wrist to move the mouse. It's a whole arm movement, and that sounds like it's more work, but it's not. And so you don't, you're not moving the wrist to move the cursor, you're moving your whole arm. Right. So it relieviates stress on your wrist, and it helps with RSI. Yeah. So it's actually kind of legit, but it's also $119 now. When I got it, it was like $89, but I bought it years ago. But Logitech did a lot of actual legit science to try to figure out how people with RSI use this thing. And, you know, it helps. I think for people with RSI, the real trick is to try different things, to use different things and move around.
But I'll put a link to that in the show notes. and then if anybody out there has any suggestions on a really great mouse okay so give us your core core requirements one more time like the. Things you gotta have yeah so not rubber or metal customizable, buttons would be nice I do have some on my mouse but I'm not necessarily using them it would be nice to consolidate the three mice to one and USB dongle would be preferred so that I can so my KVM can switch it between the two so. Bluetooth not ideal unless the mouse itself supports Bluetooth, but then it's one more thing you have to switch.
So USB dongle is ideal. And USB-A dongle. Yeah. And so, yeah, the ability to side scroll. Like if a button could side scroll or if the scroll wheel side scrolls, like that would be a weird thing to get used to, but I probably could. And that would help consolidate the three mice down to one. Some of them have like side wheels. Like I have a mouse that definitely does the side wheel thing. and then some of them do buttons for side-scrolling and like the Apple Magic Mouse, you can swipe for side-scrolling. So it's, yeah, yeah, all right. There you go. So Andrew's in the market for a new mouse.
Boost in and let us know what you think she should pick and what's worked for you. It's not an easy thing, but once you pick the right mouse, it's something that can last for a long time. This one's lasted you forever. Forever. So it's probably time. Yeah, before kids even. Well, Uncle Tim took the stage this morning at 10.02 a.m. and welcomed everybody with a hearty good morning at the Apple campus like they do now. And the secret of the event was the entire thing was shot on the iPhone 17, which is funny. They noted that because something was it seemed a little off.
The shots weren't quite as dynamic or as rich. And I thought I was I'm not making this up in the back of my mind. I felt like this feels like a tick lower budget than their previous videos. Weird. More than midway in, they say, and we're shooting this on the iPhone 17. Oh. Well, it wasn't just iPhones. Apple started, we're going to go in chronological order here. Apple started with new AirPods, AirPod Pro 3, the number 3. And the big feature for these is new live translation feature. If you're traveling, they'll do live translation. Oh, my gosh.
Welcome to the future. Huh. Um how do you feel about wireless earpods or earpods in general you're not really a big user right. Me oh that's funny i use wired ones i didn't think you were gonna ask me no i know you use the one trying to get. You to say use the wired. I do use the wired ones because i did get airpods and i uh every yeah she. Turned crazy started. Killing oh my gosh yes right no i did get a headache though or like it was it was so annoying every day after i would use them i'd have a headache and then And the next, like, I don't know, six days in, I used my wired ones, no headache.
And I thought, nope. And I gave them away. How's the fit? It was fine. It was fine. Yeah. But, yeah, the wired ones are really annoying. But the sound canceling. I was on a phone call at the football game, at Abby's football game, and they could not hear the cheering or the band. Jeez, they should feature that in a commercial. The wired ones are truly sound canceling to a degree. Wow. Because when I'm on a phone call, I can hear everything on the other side. And it's so frustrating, like, with my misphonia. So, like, yeah, a bag of chips opening on the other side could kill me. Like, I would just die.
So the new AirPod Pro 3s or whatever, they are smaller. Oh. And they have done a bunch of research on the fit. And they have a new fit and they have new tips. But the thing that I thought was interesting about these, and I'm surprised it actually took Apple this long, but I'm sure it's easier said than done, is they finally integrated a heart rate sensor into the AirPods. Interesting. And if you've ever been working out or under, you know, a lot of activity, you've probably felt maybe you can sometimes feel your pulse in your ears. Well, and yeah, and if something's wedged in there, it's definitely going to feel it.
I thought that for a while is you could, the watch has some sensors, the phone has some sensors, the AirPods have some sensors. Reconcile the data, put a good result forward. $250. Okay. Not too bad, I suppose, for this kind of stuff. Nothing huge there. I think it was just a standard update. No mention really of any improvements to the protocol of active noise cancelling, but just that the design of the AirPods makes active noise cancelling more effective. And new tips. So if you want more than just the tip, you can get it. And IP57, so it's better water protection.
eight hours of active noise cancellation, and 10 hours of transparency. So if you're using these for a Zoom meeting, not that I ever do, they'll last a little bit longer now. For me, my AirPods last about three hours of meetings. And honestly, that's more than I need all day anyways. I don't want any more than that. And you don't get headaches? No, thankfully. No. No, thankfully I don't. But I have heard that from other people, too. Yeah. We now have an Apple Watch 11, the thinnest and most comfortable watch ever. Okay.
More durable, too. Twice the scratch-resistance coating than any previous. Yeah. They have 5G in here if you want that cellular version. I have banged mine against everything. Yeah, me too. Well, you see, you know, it's on your wrist, right? I know. And mine is at least four years old, I think. So I could be due. Is there a link to this? I don't see a watch in here. Oh, I'll throw links in there. Yeah, I don't have them yet because it just happened. Yeah. Oh. So the thing that they introduced a couple of iterations ago that I would really like to take advantage of, which I haven't yet, is sleep apnea detection.
Right. Oh, they added that? A while ago, a couple of releases ago. And that almost made me buy, but I've got some old Apple Watch. I'm just trying to stretch as long as I can. Same. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? I don't use anything on my Apple Watch, and it dies by the end of the day. Like, it is really frustrating. I hate it. You don't use workout modes? Because that will drain the battery. Well, if I work out. Yeah. I just don't have any apps on my watch. I only use it to track my... It's a tiny battery. Yeah.
This I thought was a really neat addition to the Apple Watch, though. High blood pressure and hypertension detection. Oh, that doesn't seem new. It is. It's a big deal. And it takes 30 days for them to collect the data. So it's not going to catch it for everyone. They estimate about a million people. but it's monitoring your blood vessels in your arm through that lighting system they have for 30 days. And then after that, it does the math and it alerts you if it thinks that you have high blood pressure, hypertension. Interesting.
Which I would think is, because it's called the silent killer because there's not many physical tells that you are having a problem. And so it'll notificate you over hypertension issues. They say, quote, it won't detect all instances of hypertension but we expect to notify more than 1 million people of unknown hypertension in the first year. Wow. I want blood sugar detection. I would buy it on credit if it had blood sugar detection. They're also introducing a Garmin-like feature now, which is called your sleep score. Ooh.
Tells you how you did. You know, it sounds like, I think the Aura ring does that. Yep, yep, yep. Up to 24 hours of battery life now. In fact, they mentioned the battery a couple of times. Really? Mm-hmm. The other thing I like. That would be great. Yeah. I charge my watch twice a day right now. Faster charging, too, now. 24 hours of battery life and faster charging. You might also like this, Ange. They updated the Apple Watch SE, which is their kind of like smaller one. Yeah. No, you wouldn't. No. Yeah, no, I don't think so. I don't know which one I have. So the SE has a new modern system on a chip. It has a wrist temperature sensor.
Do you know what they use the temperature sensor on the wrist for? Temperature? Well, yes. But do you know what they can derive by monitoring your temperature over a period of time combined with other health stats? Whether you're sick? Maybe. COVID? Maybe. What? If you're ovulating. Oh, of course. So they have a cycle tracking system in there that uses... So where do I need to stick it? It sounds useful to me, right? Like, hey, by the way, your heart rate's going up. Just in case you're getting busy, just so you know, you're ovulating right now. I mean, that seems like they don't actually do that, but you could. Larger battery.
Okay, so I have the Apple Watch Series 7. What do you have? I went bold, and I decided to get a blue one, which I always just do like silver or black. I have green. new. I wish I hadn't done it just because of how long. Yeah, it's so ugly. And I've had it for so long, right? Like if you have it for one year, not a big deal. But if you have it for years, it matters. All right, so I have the Apple Watch Series 6 GPS. Oh, yeah, I have the 7 GPS. Yeah. And now they're on 11. This is 11. Yeah. You and I are both way behind. Yeah, no, this is good.
Yeah, it is upgrade time. One thing, so they have the SEL. We can move on from that. They also, you know, Apple has their ultra version of the watch, the really big sporty version, which has an even bigger screen. And they added, which I was hoping to see, but it seemed nearly impossible, satellite communications for like SOS. Interesting. Or to send your location. Those hikers. Or to send out a quick message. You can send out a few quick messages. But I think the big deal is you can call 911, you can ping 911 from your watch when you're somewhere without cellular signal.
You just have to get a clear shot of the sky, and then you freaking watch and talk to satellites. Wow. It's crazy. That is crazy. And also, it has 5G in there. It's also nice to have FindMine, because if you're out hiking for a while, and your friends and family want to check on you, the significant other wants to know if you're okay, it's nice every now and then to see the location get updated. So those will be shipping September 19th. And, you know, same prices. they're claiming 42 hours of battery life on the uh main watch or one of the watches 42 hours yeah i think 42 hours yeah that's not bad right yeah.
That i could just charge it once a day. Instead of twice and then we got four new iphones uncle tim came out with four new iphones so how are they all 17s yep they're all 17s it's an iphone bonanza, Screen size bumps up to 6.3 inches on the base model. It now also has ProMotion, which means 120 hertz, but it also means it can slow down. And slowing down the screen refresh means it can save battery life. So that's a big deal. And it now has a new ceramic-type shield all around it. They say it's one of. Their more durable ones. Ceramic? Instead of this metal or glass or this aluminum?
The design is mostly metal now. with a bit of glass, and then the entire thing is coated in this ceramic shield 2. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it should be a lot more durable. Maybe you won't need a case. I don't know. 3,000 nits of peak outdoor brightness is nice, too, so it's a little bit easier to read outside. And, of course, because it's a new iPhone, it means a new processor. So they have the A19, which uses an unbelievable 3 nanometer die process, six cores on there, five GPU cores. They say, quote, a huge boost from previous iPhones. And this one was big to me. Faster charge. You can get up to 50% battery in 10 minutes.
Wow. Nice, right? Okay. Yeah. The telephoto on the back is 2X. It's a 48 megapixel main camera. And the way they process it is they kind of crop the shots. You're actually taking advantage of 24 megapixels, but it's a really nice looking 24 megapixels because they use all 48 to put that together. Front camera got a big upgrade. They released a stat in this that's just so cringy. There have been over 500 billion selfies by iPhone users. The iPhone is the most selfie used. Yeah, it's embarrassing. 500 billion selfies. The girls, well, Abby got me to sign up for Be Real. Have you heard of that?
No. What did she get me to sign up for? Lock it. Yeah, lock it. Yeah, I haven't done lock it yet. So B-Real is another one? Well, I mean, it's not like Locket. So B-Real, at a random time of day, you get a notification that you have two minutes to take a picture, right? And it takes the front, well, whichever picture, whichever camera you have it on, it takes that one first and almost immediately takes the other one. So she's done some really creative ones, and it actually went off on the way here, and I think I was late. so you. You have to reveal not only yourself but the location you're in.
Basically sort of not necessarily location but like the surroundings or whatever so if you're in a messy room everybody knows i want to show you habby's because she did such a good job um oh it reminds me of instagram when instagram first started you couldn't upload a picture. Right you only. You could only yeah you had to use a live camera picture that's how long it works and that's what this is. So you know what's crazy? That's probably not even an Apple's 500 billion count. So here's one that Abby did. It does picture in picture. Right.
So she did all of her friends. Yeah, circle of friends looking down. And then the other camera took a picture of all their feet. That's great. It's so cool. It's interesting. I've only done it for like, well, five days. Here's mine. It is kind of like Instagram. It looks a little bit like it too. Yeah. So the front camera got a big upgrade. They now have a new center stage feature that automatically try to center you and the other people in front of the camera and it is now twice the size of the previous sensor so it's now an 18 megapixel front does it. Vibrate to be like you're a dumbass move your move your phone over.
So people are in there maybe like a little buzz yeah i you know i could see it they they zoom it automatically will try to like go wide and try to frame it sure yeah yeah. That's gonna distort some pictures. Though, Yeah, we're using AI to figure it out. Yeah, so the things that I do naturally to take good pictures. Right, yes, yeah. A new type of iPhone was introduced, Andrews. A new type of iPhone, it's called the iPhone Air. Okay, all right, well, let's think about it. We've heard this before with the iPad, iPad Air. It was ultra thin, right? Yeah, MacBook Air, yes, of course. So it just means thinner.
So this one's definitely going to break in your pocket if it's... Well, they claim not. This is why we'll see. $9.99, so $1,000. New total ceramic coating. They say, quote, most durable iPhone yet. High-density battery. Thinnest iPhone ever at 5.6 millimeters. 3X better scratch protection than previous iPhones. Has the A19 Pro in it. Here's the thing. Yeah. Only one camera on it. What? Isn't that strange in the era of crazy, powerful cameras? Only one camera. Maybe because it's too thin. That's what they claim. And they tried to polish it and make it sound really nice. Like they're doing a lot.
Polishing a turd. It's also eSIM only. That means no physical SIM cards, only digital SIM cards. They said to quote, Make more room for battery. So they can turn it off. Yeah, well, there's that. Big brother. Or just, you know, they can quickly probably deprecate eSIM standards too. They don't really tell us the battery life, but they went on about a huge battery and said, quote, all day battery life. The thing is wicked thin, though. It's wicked thin, which means when you put a case on it, it'll be the thickness of an uncased iPhone. Right.
So there you go. It'll be nice. The one that I think our audience would probably be interested in, probably you and I, is the iPhone Pro. So the iPhone Pro is the one I've been buying for a while now. And it saw some really nice updates, in my opinion, especially when it comes to some of the stuff that people actually use practically day to day. Oh, before I move on. They introduced a new purse strap for the iPhone. I don't know if you can see on my screen here, but you put it over your shoulder and it's like a strap and you carry around like a purse. Is that way you can smack it into stuff real good?
So does the corner of the iPhone have like a- Yep. Or the case or something. A little hook? Like a case you put on it. The case. Oh, it's a case. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Eh. You're going to be smacking that thing. All right, let's talk about the Pro. All right, so this starts at $1,099 for the Pro, and they really set out to hype up the new all aluminum custom exclusion as they put it heated and forged and then precision machined colorful and durable and what they really are doing is it's all one single piece of aluminum and then the guts all get installed inside of it that gives it a nice durability and then they infuse the color at manufacturing time and then they on the back put what they call a quote full width camera plateau but the clever thing that Apple did this time is they wrapped the antennas around the camera plateau or plateau.
And what that allows them to do is achieve a better cellular signal. You know, usually it's somewhere in the band. If you look at an iPhone today and you're looking at the edges of your iPhone, you'll notice there's little notches in the side of the iPhone. A little notch here, a little notch up there. There's a little notch up there. Those are actually the antennas. Oh. Remember old cell phones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where they live now on modern cell phones. And what Apple has done is they've integrated those into the band that sits around the camera bump. Oh, that makes sense. And that way it's not obstructed by a case or blocked or whatever.
Because your meat. Like you see where my hand meat is right now? Yeah, my hand meat. My finger and the meat of my hand are covering. And actually where my thumb goes could cover an antenna too. So right now I am covering three out of four antennas on this iPhone. Yeah. And the camera plateau is completely unobstructed. So it actually is a pretty clever place to put it. They have a new back design which is mostly metal with like a piece of glass on there too. Which they showed getting smashed into and all kinds of stuff. Ooh, did they, did they, or, let's see, what would it be?
Can you hold the phone closer to your face, or do they still recommend that you keep it, like, 12 inches from your ear? At least now it's all shooting out the back towards the, away from you, I suppose. I was hoping to see some, see them talk about heat. Because as these phones have been getting faster, they get warmer. Well, yeah, and as we have to charge them all the time, like, especially while we're driving. and if it happens to be a hot day. Super hot. And or like Telegram, you can share your location. If I'm sharing my location to more than one person, my phone's going to overheat.
Wow. Yeah. So they have what they call now a vapor chamber, which helps move heat out away from the major components and out into the outer metal shell. Interesting. Which means it might actually feel hotter in the hand, but the components are cooler. Right. Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. And then you put a case on it. Do they factor that in when they're reporting on these things? I hope, since they sell cases. Because, I mean, who raw dogs their phone? Some people do, but it just seems when a phone's $1,100 base price, unless you pay out the nose for insurance.
Huh. All right, but you know what? Faber chamber. I'll take it. They say, also, because of the cooling system now, the iPhone 17 Pro has 40% better sustained performance. In other words, you're doing something CPU or GPU intensive for a prolonged period of time. The 17 has 40% better sustained performance than the 16 because of this cooling system. I'm not sold on a new phone, but I am interested in a new watch. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of quasi in between. I'm not sure. My iPhone 14 is feeling old. Oh, and then I could give Dylan this one because he smashed his. That'd be good, actually. I feel it the most right before a trip.
when I'm doing my day-to-day life, I can manage my phone pretty well. You know, like right now, my phone's at 90% battery. Not bad at all. 62. Yeah, okay. If I were at Texas Linux Fest right now and it's noon, my phone's dead. My phone's dead. My phone's probably been dead for an hour. And that drives me crazy when I'm traveling. They do obviously have the Macs. Not much there. The Macs is bigger. The wide angle, it has a wide angle lens, so three cameras, There's wide angle telephoto, which is 8x optical, which is nice, and then the main lens, which is 48 megapixel, and then they're offering a 40x digital zoom.
So the Pixel 10 just came in with a 100x digital zoom, and Apple's coming in with a 40x digital zoom. Digital zoom's kind of garbage anyways, so it's not really huge. They also pushed a lot of Pro features for video production in the iPhone Pro for ProRes support and Dolby support and things like that. And they talked a lot about the enhanced GPUs. All in all, a decent update. I think a more compelling update than the iPhone 16 pre-orders go up this Friday, probably like at 5 a.m. or whatever they do Pacific time. And then the shipments start September 19th, which means if I did buy one on Friday, I'd have probably time to get it before Texas Linux Fest.
When is Texas Linux Fest? October 2nd. Oh, okay, yeah. Also, in that beginning, we should have done the housekeeping about no episode next week. Oh, I was going to mention it at the end. Oh, okay. I was going to mention it, but yeah. What if they just don't last to the end? That's true. Some of them do cut out. Yeah, there will be no episode next week because I'm traveling with the wife for her birthday. And then at the end of the month, I'm traveling to Texas Linux Fest. Lots of traveling going on coming up. New cases introduced, all that kind of stuff. Two, 256 gigs is the base. Storage price.
On the Macs, they're going to go up to two terabytes if you're crazy enough. Right? Yeah. Wow. I know. So let us know what you think. Send a boost in if any of these appeal to you, if you're going to be upgrading your iPhone or why you wouldn't be upgrading your iPhone. I'm a man stuck between two worlds. The iPhone 17, I think, is slightly more appealing to me than the Pixel 10. But it's not a huge difference for me. I'd like to know what you think out there. Boost in. Let us know. Also, speaking of boosts. Yeah, how about a value-for-value track? If you boost during the song, 95% of the sats go to the artist and their team.
And this week, we have Selfish by Vicious Clay. We got a batch of voicemails to get to this week. I think Andrews is over there pre-ordering herself on Apple Watch right now. She's like, I'm getting that. I'm looking at, you know, all my options is keeping it $3.99, so that's cool. Andrews approves of the new Apple Watch, I take it. All right, well, let's get to these voicemails. We got a nice batch, and the first one comes from Eric from the Our Podcast. Hello, JV Crew. This is Eric, also known as Our Podcast. I tried to call in a few weeks ago, and maybe my cell phone just started to be very angry at me that day.
Nonetheless, I just wanted to say both me and my son absolutely love this show. Yeah, the lunch thing is kind of fun, but you've got to keep it to lunch. I'm just saying. I have an angry kid behind me every time we listen to it. Nonetheless, my real question is probably not related to your show topic, but I am organizing a virtual conference in a couple months. I've been doing it for a few years now, and I'd love to replicate what you've been doing for these extremely funny and entertaining, you know, songs, AI-generated songs and jingles.
Would you mind sharing kind of the tooling behind that? Because I really want to do some fun stuff with data science and the R language with this kind of spin. Anyway, love the show as always. Hope you and Angela keep it up. And, yeah, look forward to listening next time. Thanks so much. Well, thanks, Eric. Yeah, so the tool that I probably have found the most success with is suno.com. I think it's what it is. It's suno.com. And then you've got to pay money to get access to their good model generator. So they got me. I'm paying money.
it gives me access to, I think, a slightly better version of it. And then it's all about the prompt and the vibes. And it generally takes a few iterations, in my experience, to get it right. Let us know how it goes. And if you get a good one, send it in. I want to hear it. Now, we've also had a bit of controversy stirred up last week when Brent's lawyer called in, and then Brent himself called in. And that's created a big back and forth, some team strife because of Brent's decisions around this, and Editor Drew decides to weigh in and take sides. Yeah, hi. This is Drew, the intrepid editor.
Responding to Mr. Horvitz, maybe Brent didn't let you know, but let me take you back to 2019. Brent had just purchased tickets for the Dave Matthews Band World Tour taking place in 2020, And so he was a little short on being able to pay me for editing services for the brunch. And he actually gave me a 51% ownership of the brunch. Maybe he conveniently lost that contract. I don't know. But the thing is, I am on board with the launch. And I technically own a little bit more of brunch than he does. So I don't know. You guys either have to buy me out or kick rocks. I see. Drew coming in trying to get a piece of the action. But that's strange because I swear I saw him selling 51% to Wes too.
Oh. I don't know how you could sell 51% to Drew, 51% to Wes. That's 152% of this show. What is going on? You know, we've got to figure this out. But PJ, producer Jeff, he calls in with a little common sense about it. Hey, fellas. It's Jeff. Good old PJ here. Now, I actually want the launch to remain the launch. I wouldn't mind a lunch segment. That'd be fine. But this lawyer calling in. Right. Claiming that it's infringement. Uh-huh. Well, you see, wouldn't there have to be an active show called Brunch with Brent? Because the last time I saw a show published was July of 2022.
Whoa! Hmm. Maybe there's some property abandonment here. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, but I think a show would actually have to be active for Mr. Brentley there to have any legs to stand on. So, you know, I say just go for it. Give us a lunch segment. I do love Chris's barbecue. It's great. All right. Well, y'all take care now. PJ woke up and chose violence this morning. I'm here for it. I love it. Good catch. Yeah. Well, I mean, it just doesn't work that way for digital assets. I suppose. If the feed's active, perhaps. Yeah.
All right. We'll continue to investigate. Thank you for the input, everybody. And Editor Drew will have to come up with a sideline agreement between you and Brent, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. I did play those voicemails, the lawyer and Grimm, for both Dylan and Abby. And they were very entertained. You should have seen Dylan's cute little grin while he was listening to it. It was so cute. Oh, man. All right. We got a call from a random listener. All right. So this is a random listener in Southeast New Mexico. I got a... I don't know if I'm a suggestion. What kind of suggestion?
Well, yeah. For the new show. You got to title it, right? Yeah. So let's call it 3-2-1 Lunch, right? Or maybe Scrubbed Lunch. Right? That sounds pretty reasonable. We got to figure out this Britney guy. Maybe we should contact some people up in New York. Right. Maybe get some of those concrete boots. Right. You know, maybe? That sounds reasonable. I know I'm making concrete fashion. He's messing with the business. Maybe that's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, I think we can do that. All right, we got to get some New Yorkers in here. You know, Random, why this is a great idea is Brent's going to be traveling on the East Coast. Accidents happen.
It's a long drive. Podcasting is a cutthroat business. When you get into digital media, you get in all the way. That's a good point, Random listener. All right, we had a call on AI and jobs, a topic that we brought up a couple weeks ago. Hey there, Chris and Angie for the launch. Talking about your segment on AI and the jobs. I'm so sick of that. Where do they think experienced technology people come from? If companies don't hire end-level people, eventually they won't have any experienced ones. And they'll just be stuck talking to the machine, which is brain damaged at best. Idiocracy.
It tells them what they want to hear. It's also, as the CBS thing kind of talked about, it's companies need to feel the need to juice their stock price because, after all, that's how executives get paid, right? Shares. Same shit, different day. It's not different than outsourcing in many regards. They're just another way to reduce headcount, increase the stock price. Yay. Especially since CEOs can be sued for non-performance if they don't make the stock price go up. It's a capitalization gone to an extreme. Capitalization. Capitalism. gone to an extreme where it seems to be the only thing that matters is number go up, right?
Anyhow, this is Kevin from Raleigh. We've chatted. I'm seeing a lot of it. And as somebody who's on the tail end of a career, I'm glad I'm not looking for a job. 10 years ago, I was looking and it took me uh 10 months to land a new job so this isn't really new right they're just uh not hiring the youngs because they don't have experience they're not rehiring the olds because. Kevin what i'm hearing you say let me hit the timeline there kevin what i'm hearing you say is invest in ai, play the market no I follow what you're saying there it will yeah I think it will be your lower level positions initially the younger ones perhaps it is how will apprenticeships work in this era still something we'll have to navigate, Magnolia Mayhem called in during lunch to talk about, I'm not really sure, but whatever he wants.
Hey, so it's Magnolia Mayhem. I'm just sitting here having my lunch, and I had a thought cross my mind. I want to put it to the community. Now, this may strike you as kind of an odd question, give or take, but I really just have to know. So, considering the standard definition of a furry, does Batman count as a furry? I think it's an interesting question. Yeah, Catwoman? This is out of nowhere. Oh, it's pretty much it. He's eating lunch. I hate it. Wondering, does Batman count as a furry? I love it. I mean, that is a mammal, right? Anyway. Huh.
Huh. I mean, I want to say no, because it's Batman. I mean, like, well, is he in Batsuit when he is performing? Well, is that what defines a furry? I mean, is that the only thing? I mean. I don't know. It does seem like the furries take it there. It does seem like that. Right? I mean, I guess it is. It seems like that's where they end up. It's a stereotype, right? Well, it's a stereotype for a reason. Huh. I mean, I'm not sitting comfortable with this. I have to be honest. Mayhem has stirred something in me I do not like. They are very furry. There was a, what is it called?
Formaldehyde. A preserved bat at the place that pierced Abby's septum. And they got a lot of fur. It's gross. And cute little teeth. Yeah. That was so out of left field. I think he might be right, though. I think Batman might technically be a furry. Yeah. Does he have a tail? Do bats have tails? No. But Catwoman sometimes does. Oh, so Catwoman's a... I think so. Okay. All right. Next call from Cameron, and he's got a call on phone cases. A hot tip. Hey, Launch. This is Cameron calling in for episode 33, talking about phone cases. Just want to highly recommend the D-Brand Rugged line of cases.
I've got one on my Pixel 7. It's been working great for years. It does a lot better than the cheapos that you used to get online. All right. Thanks. You know, Cameron, I looked for the D-Brand Rugged, and I found their grip versions, but I couldn't find the rugged version. And he says he has one for his Pixel 7. I have a Pixel 7. I want to try that on my phone. I'd love it. Okay, and then we got a call. It was really garbled. I could only rescue a bit of it. And I think they're asking about AlbiHub. You keep talking about this AlbiHub self-hosting. I really love to do self-hosting to try to learn that kind of stuff.
Is there a script or is there some kind of walkthrough somewhere that... Yeah, so let's talk about AlbiHub because I mention it a lot, but we don't really go into much detail. We use it here on the show. It's how Ange receives her sats for the show, is on AlbiHub. And it's really simple. If you follow a Start9 or Umbral guide, because these are like Debian or Ubuntu-based OSs that will walk you through it. And I have guides for both of them in the show notes. Simple's a relative term. Simple for this type of thing. But it is very doable, and it feels really great once you get it running. But the quick version is, is grab something like Start9 or Umbral OS, Linux-based OSes that come with the whole platform to let you just deploy applications.
And you just click a button. And next thing you know, you've got yourself an Alvi set up. Thank you, everybody who called the show. We'd love it if you called the show and leave us a voicemail. And we got some boosts, and Augustin came in with 15,000 sats and says, in Sweden, we have this thing called burn ball. It's like baseball, but with a tennis ball and no pitcher. And when I was like 13 or something, I managed to break my leg trying to slide into home base or into the base. Oh, man. I sort of fell over my leg in some perfect angle, and then I heard it crack. I was stationary all that summer a year. Keep up the good show.
Dylan is doing much better. Oh, yeah. He had to, on his first day of school, he did have to use crutches, which he hated. And I don't think. He was late to every class. He just skipped math altogether. What I told him is like, hey, buddy, you're going to have a built in conversation starter. Easy conversation coming back to school. Got something to talk about. But he's moving around now for the most part. We did a little driving around the farm in his Jeep this weekend. He's trying to accelerate. And he's trying to do it because when you have this Jeep in reverse, it's very touchy.
Like even for a very professional seasoned driver, you'd have a hard time backing this thing up because you just, you fart on the accelerator and it just leaps, right? And so he's sitting there trying to feather the accelerator, but he's feathering it with his big toe that's hurt. He's like, ow, oh, ow. Yeah. Yeah, it's good, though. He's doing much better. Thank you for the boost. Nice to hear from you, Og. And hello out there all the way in Soweedin. Podbun sent in 4,444 sats. That's a big old duck. Three lights. Sounds like Stephen King's IT. Yeah, I was also thinking Chain of Command TNG Part 1 and 2.
It says, I once pressed my finger into one of those car lighters with a little spiral inside. I remember it hurting so much and having a spiral imprinted on my finger. Ow. Your daughter would do that. Mine? Abby? Yeah, yeah. She would. Yeah, she would. Quintessential, I wish I had it on camera moment. Abby was very, very young, but maybe seven or eight. Is this the stove? We're at a birthday party, and there is a wood stove there, and she's like, can I touch it? No, it's very hot. Do not touch it. It will burn you. And then she immediately proceeds to touch the hot stove.
Okay. It's cliche, but it really happened. Sounds like Dylan, too. Well, remember you were barbecuing charcoal? Yes. Yes. And I was like, don't touch it. It doesn't look hot, but it is. And I can't remember which kid it was. That might have been Dylan. Yeah, Dylan. Or Abby. They both love it. Dylan also has to test it. Ah. But yeah, having a spiral on your finger is kind of cool for a little bit. Yeah, it is. Not how you got it. Right? You're showing everybody. Anyways, thank you for the boost. And I love the story pod bun. Sohangs here with 2,222 sats. That's a row of ducks.
Time machine boost. That means he's catching up in the back catalog and giving us a time check. Ah, yes. Still catching up on the launch? I kind of forgot about it for a while. I'm thinking of switching to Fountain FM and Podverse at least until the rewrite. Oh, from Podverse until the Podverse rewrite lands. I don't really deal with Fountain's UI very well. I just want a list of my damn podcast. Do you know when the rewrite can be expected? Maybe I'll leave a voicemail one of these days, too. The rewrite, the back end stuff is done for Podverse. the web stuff is underway right now and the front end apps are still underway right now for Podverse Fountain FM 1.3 just came out massive overhaul to some of the back end and the UI and the playback UI you're not going to like this answer.
But if you become a Fountain Premium member there's now an option to just take you right to your list of podcasts no home screen, no social stuff, just boom, right to your list of podcasts however, you may want to check it out, because what they've done now in Fountain 1.3 and beyond is they've redone the home screen. So it shows you your recently played episodes right at the top. Then it has trending episodes across Fountain. Hey, look, there's Linux Unplugged. Hey, look, there's Linux Unplugged twice in the trending episodes section. And then they also have trending music tracks in that homepage.
So the first thing is it takes you right to what you've been playing. And it's one tap, and you can immediately start the podcast with one tap that you were just listening to and find new ones. And then go to library if you want to see your list of subscribed podcasts. However, like I said, if you become a premium subscriber now, you can just go right to the list of podcasts directly. And there's more updates coming to Fountain FM. There's a lot of good stuff in there. I'd like to hear what you think. So boost in Sohang and Sohang and let me know. I'll be keeping an ear out. Odyssey West is here with the Road Ducks.
Do you guys want me to make an updated logo for the Texas Linux Fest? I'm always open to doing graphics. I would love to see it. I would love to see something sent in my way. Yeah. Yeah. We'd throw it on some swag. I really do want to have some swag. Yeah. Around sticker. Yeah. Sticker would be great. Around a die cut sticker. Something we could put on there would be really nice. Something that's, you know, better than what I can come up with AI slop would be good. Yeah. What even happened? Well we have a joke on lep that we call unpludged you know. Oh okay but it was three g's too many g's and then an eg instead of ed it's not good i.
Was trying to go for unpludged but it's. Oh well but. It didn't look like unpludged it was. It didn't i thought yeah yeah yeah it was bad it was real bad yeah he he put he put it on there and he's like can you finalize these and i went to finalize the sticker and I was like what? Is this even 3 G's in unplugged and then ending in EG? So I hid it and told him like was this a mistake? I was going for unplugged because we talk about it's our joke. You gotta be. Well that sounds like it's a DGED. Unplugged. You're telling me I had a spell unplugged. You know I wrote unplugged but you know. Oh.
Yeah I admit it. It was AI slop. Okay. Got me to admit it there Odyssey. Thanks. Thanks. Turd Ferguson's here with 13,333. Sats. As a longtime iPhone user myself, what sin, how bad of a mess up, what would it take for you both to never buy an iPhone again? Oh, that's interesting. So Chris is an early adopter and I am too, but not like he's on the smaller part of the tail of that. Like he jumps on it right away. typically. It took me until I think late 2009 to get an iPhone. I wouldn't. It'd be hard, right? I wouldn't. No. It's a different brain.
It's a different brain. Like, I just don't need to customize my phone as much. What would they have to do to make me knock it? I mean, I've thought about it. For me, it's more like corporate policies. It's not like they do something wrong with the iPhone. Well, mine is usability. Well, yeah, that's a big one. It was like if Apple became a huge jerk, again, like if they really started throwing their weight around more than they do with the App Store or something like that, I would. I mean, that's already what made me want to get a Pixel. What would they do to make me never buy one again, though? It'd have to be a pretty big screw-up.
Yeah. Because they've got it on lock. Yeah. They kind of, you know, their biggest problem is the old ones work good enough, you don't need to buy a new one all the time. Yeah. That's their biggest competition. Not so much that they screw it up. Like, I still think it's a product that holds up pretty well to the Android alternatives. The Pixel 10 and the Samsung devices are competitive. Especially if you want something like a Fold. Apple doesn't even offer that. But I'm going to turn that around to the audience. If you are an Android user or you are an iPhone user, what would your platform vendor of choice have to do to make you never want to use them again?
Oh, for you. Well, the opposite, like to stay with iPhone forever is that blood sugar. Yeah. If they had glucose monitoring, that would make me want to switch. Yeah. To me, that's why I think it's funny Turd's asking this, because to me it seems way more feasible that Google would do something that would piss me off. Just because they have more room to screw up in terms of making things worse. I don't know. But that's a good question, Turd. Chloro4 is here with 2,222 sats. Speaking about the iPhone, he says they should just make it thicker and maybe smaller in length. Yeah, you know, I do not need a 6.3 inch screen. Yeah.
I really don't. I really don't. I can get an internet paddle if I want that. Oh, and make the last one way longer. And thin is just overkill. I don't need it to be thin. Yeah. They love the thin. There is something about when you hold something crazy thin and it's like, how is this possible? It's just like nothing but glass. There's a neat feeling to that. I won't discount that. Does that neat feeling last three years? I don't know, right? It's a neat thing for the first two months you own the phone and then it's like it's a phone. Not sure. Not sure I fully get it, but, you know, they say you have to hold it to believe it. Maybe that's true.
Thank you, everybody, who boosted in five of you stream sats. You collectively stacked us 11,335 sats. When you combine that with our boosters who sent a message, well, we stacked 50,778 sats, a nice tick up from last week. Hey, if you'd like to boost in, Fountain FM makes it real easy, or you can go get yourself Albihub and do it the whole self-hosted route, which is pretty dang fancy, and we do love to see it. Thank you, everybody, who's either a Jupiter Party member or boosts in. Keeps the show going. Well, everybody says AI is taking your jobs. Well, what if the reality is, is AI may actually be creating jobs?
Because sometimes what AI produces, like my unplug sticker, not good enough. Not good enough. And NBC is covering a story of people that are specifically getting work to clean up AI stuff. AI has led to concerns that the technology could replace workers across industries. But some people are now kind of flipping the script through a new category of work. It's essentially fixing AI's mistakes. And even though companies are trying to use AI to eliminate some positions, a recent report from MIT found that 95% of these generative AI pilots that these companies are implementing, they're actually getting zero return on that investment.
Generative content can be riddled with mistakes that rarely make for a satisfactory final product. That is where human beings can come in. Writers are fixing AI writing mistakes. Artists are cleaning up wonky images. And software developers are fixing app glitches. Let's bring in NBC News tech and culture reporter, Angela Yang. She spoke to some of the... Let's not. So isn't this just... I'm not saying this is a huge trend or a huge wave. But don't you find it interesting that after all of the sky is falling, it turns out actually we need humans to still review it, so we're hiring people.
Yeah. Well, there was that whole company that the AI was humans. Yes. Right. Right. It stood for Anonymous Indians. Right. That was classic, actually. Anonymous Indians. Right. It did. Yeah. All right. So I might want to go to Bloomington, Indiana. And no. What? It's not because that's where the Bloomington Onion, the Blooming Onion's from, the Bloomington Onion. No, no. It is the hometown of Captain Catherine Janeway. Oh. And they're leaning in as a town. They're embracing it. And I love it. I got to go. I got to see it. We've been in your hometown all evening long here exploring Bloomington, Indiana, down in Monroe County.
And the town is known best as the home of Indiana University, the Beeline Trail, and Lake Monroe. But it's also a sci-fi connection for Star Trek fans. A statue along the beeline honors the fictional character Captain Catherine Janeway. Janeway led the Star Trek Voyager set in the 24th century. and she played the show's first female commanding officer. In the Star Trek universe, Captain Janeway was born in Bloomington in the year 2336. The statue symbolizes the push for kids to explore and embrace science and for all to enjoy the arts. We celebrate the arts and everything that's unique about Bloomington.
You know, there's a lot of towns and a lot of cities that say keep Portland weird, keep Louisville weird. Bloomington's pretty weird also. And that's one of the quirkiest, weirdest things about us. And we're quite proud of that. Notice he didn't say anything about Seattle. Yeah. Just to give cred to that. Yeah. But OK. Yeah. So she wasn't actually born there. No. Her character was born there. Yes. That's hilarious. I know. I was wondering. This is their weird, quirky thing about their town? Yeah. Well, they were like, she was born in Bloomington in 2346 or whatever it was. And I'm like, well, that's the future. Oh, so it's not actually.
No. I mean, it's a fun idea. It's just a statue. Do you know what she thinks of it? No, I'm sure she loves it. But I don't know. I don't love it. I love it in the sense that if I were already in Bloomington and I were walking the streets, I would absolutely stop. I would be one of the 500 billion that take a selfie with the Janeway statue. I'd take pictures of it, and I would enjoy that moment a lot. I'm not going to just go on a tourism trip to Bloomington just because they have this statue. And if this is their weird and quirky thing about their town, they make it sound boring.
It reminds me, I'm not even kidding you. This is a serious story. On one of our road trips, I don't remember which one it was, but I had Brent with me on this one. and we stopped in a diner in Wyoming and we asked, what's the thing to do here in town? And the guy says to us, well, there's a JCPenney's. Oh, gosh. And I said, okay. So the next guy we meet, listener, and we're talking to him and we say, hey, what should we do while we're here in town? Like, there's nothing to do really. He's like, hmm, well, you know, we got a JCPenney. And we're like, are you kidding? That's what the last guy said.
All the town had was a JCPenney. Wow. And this town, Bloomington, And it sounds like all they have is a Janeway statue. Backing up, you had lunch with Brent. Yeah, I know. I know. On a road trip. This was before the incident. The incident. Now, when you're a healer, you can be called, called, Colin, cold. No, hopefully not cold. To do all kinds of life-saving treatment. And often those people are intoxicated. and sometimes it's not people at all that are intoxicated it's animals and they still need life-saving help. Viral so i'm so glad you chased down the story today when fermented peaches turned a dumpster into danger long time lechard county nurse misty combs stepped in to save the day it is truly the kind of story that makes you say only in kentucky have you ever had a crazier day on the job than this i've had some pretty crazy days but no nothing like this just when misty combs thought she'd seen it all in her 21 years of nursing oh it's baby stuck is why a dumpster diving drunk turned up at the health department so our health department is right beside of kentucky miss moonshine which is a distillery and they had put some fermented peaches in their dumpster and i guess the two baby raccoons had gone into the dumpster and they were stuck got drunk as a skunk try tipsy as a trash panda i went over there and i was like we have to get them out and i mean because i guess that was just like the motherly instinct in me like i seen that mama and she was trying so hard to get her babies back but she didn't know what to do combs grabbed a shovel and scooped out the first raccoon reuniting it with its mom but the second one was in deep moonshine without hesitation she grabbed him by the tail and laid him down everybody that was around was like it's dead i mean it's just not gonna make it and it was it was.
Not breathing and it had drowned and it was full water like you could feel the. Water in it she's patting it i mean immediately i just started doing cpr on it suddenly a sign of life come on. Come on baby come on the entire time i was doing it i was sort of afraid that it would come to and eat me up and, you know, wrecking through rabies. So I was afraid of that. Fish and Wildlife responded before the town drunk turned into a mean drunk. They transported the little guy to get sobered up at the local vet. Did you just go back to work after that and get back to a normal day on the job? I sure did.
When Otis Campbell, named for the infamous Andy Griffith Show character, of course, made his return to the health department, Combs had the honor of reuniting him with his family. Goodbye, Otis. I was tickled to death that he was able to join its mom again. We all have those days where maybe we need a little moonshine and it's going to happen from time to time. Oh, okay. That's okay, too. Yeah, that poor little raccoon. I hope it stays out of the dumpster. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Combs says she is not trained in animal CPR, but she did what she could in the moment to save the little guy.
As for Otis, he has been charged with DDUI dumpster diving under the influence. Oh, my goodness. I'm telling you, maybe everywhere is just a little weird. Maybe it's not just Austin, Portland, and Seattle. Yeah, maybe. It's just a little weird everywhere. Okay, so a reminder, big reminder. We will not be around next week. We are going into what is called the Klingon pain ritual. I have to charge my pain sticks, and I have to go through a hallway. People will jab me, so I will not be. No, no, I'm taking the wife on a birthday trip down to the seaside. So we'll be gone, but we'll be back the week after.
And then not too long after that, we're going to get disrupted because of Texas Linux Fest. So we'll try to just get the calendar page updated. Try to remember to do that for you. Links to what we talk about today, all the things we talked about. Do you know where those are? Weeklylaunch.rocks can you believe it? weeklylaunch.rocks that's where you can find all of that when we are live it's on a Tuesday we have a mumble room going we're in the podcasting 2.0 apps of your choice as well as jblive.tv and recently we've been experimenting with a video stream at jblive.tv and on the various commercial video stream destinations so it's really a truly live vibe if you join us Tuesday of course we'll be out Wednesday morning in your podcast app of choice.
Shout out to Editor Drew, and we're coming for you, Brent, and we'll see you all in two weeks.
This is the launch, episode 35 for September 9th, 2025. Streaming from the beautiful Pacific Northwest and the mighty American West Coast, we greet you all a good morning, a good evening, whenever your timeline may fall, time-appropriate greetings, indeed to one and all. This is The Launch, and my name is Chris. And I'm Angela. Hello, Angela. Hello. Big show, so let's get to a few things before we get into it. We'd love it if you gave us a call. You can do it during the show or after the fact and leave a voicemail. The phone number is 774-462-5667. I want you to put that in your contact list. Just call it The Lunch.
I'll give it to you again. It is 774-462-5667. You can also join us live on Tuesdays. It's a live vibe. Start at 11.30 in Pacific, 2.30 p.m. Eastern, 7.30 p.m. UTC at jblive.tv or in your podcasting 2.0 app of choice. Been going already all morning long because today is the big Apple day. In fact, the counter for the live stream right now, clock in at 2 hours, 24 minutes. Links to what we talk about today at weeklylaunch.rocks. So rumor has it, It's time for a new mouse. Yeah, I think so. You mean like a computer mouse or do you mean like? Oh, yeah, no, no.
Okay, because with you, it could be a pet. Yeah, right? No, no, no. Gypsy caught a rat and left it on the mat a couple days ago. Oh, rats are fun. Yeah. Was it a big one? It was a big one, and it was missing its tail. That got it. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So, yeah. By the time I picked it up, the rigor mortis had set in. Oh, come on. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, boy. Okay, well, anyway, yeah, I'm thinking it is time for a new mouse. I have a Logitech mouse. I can't remember which one. And I tried to look in my Amazon history and I ordered one in 2009, but I think it was for something else. I don't know.
It's kind of a smaller one. It is a smaller one. It does have customizable buttons and a scroll wheel. So there's a couple of things. The scroll wheel, like it has two settings. It has the click or the smooth and it's not quite working right anymore. So that's one thing. So I'm just not sure what to do because I'm pretty fluid with mice. Like when the kids were younger, they'd be sitting in my lap and I'd hold them with my dominant arm, my right arm. And so I learned to left mouse so I can left mouse. That's not a problem. So you're by mouse you all?
Yeah, by mouse you all. All right, good. Yes. Makes it easier. Mompreneur or whatever. You're a mompreneur that's by mouse you all. Yes. Yes. And let's see. So my setup is I have a widescreen monitor. I have my personal computer using that monitor. And then I have my work laptop also using that monitor. I have a switch so that I can use the same mouse and keyboard between the two computers. But each of the computers also has a magic mouse, a dedicated magic mouse. Okay, I'm following you. And I use the magic mouse specifically for side-scrolling in my data sheets, right? Because I side-scroll all the time.
I'm wondering if I can't just consolidate this into one trackpad mouse or... Or I don't even know. You would be down for a trackpad? You would use a trackpad? I think I am fluid when it comes to mice. So the only caveat is my allergies, right? It cannot have metal on it and it cannot have rubber on it. And that's the biggest thing that has stopped me from changing out my Logitech is so many mice have like that non-slip rubber. Silicone is okay, but rubber, not so much. Well, I would, my first thought would be, I mean, I'd love to hear what the audience would suggest too, because I'm not proud of my suggestion.
And I think there's a better one out there. Okay. But there is the Apple Magic Mouse trackpad standalone. Oh. Like the one, and it's glass. Oh. Yeah. Interesting. That might be better for, you know, allergies. And I could use it for both computers without, because right now I do have two Magic mice, you know, because they are Bluetooth or wireless or whatever. Right. I don't want to have to worry about disconnecting and connecting and such. Huh. Yeah. A magic mouse. I don't love the magic mice. What I've gone for, and I'll put a link to this in the show. Let's see if I can find it right now.
So you've just got a big mouse ball. Well, here I do. In the studio, I have a track ball. It's like three inches in diameter or something. That's interesting. And it's wireless. It's huge. It's a Kingston track ball. Oh, it is wireless. Interesting. And the track ball itself is just about the size of a pool ball. Oh, you just pulled it right out. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's about the size of a pool ball. This, I only use in here, in the Studs, because I want something that doesn't drag on the table and make noise and get picked up on mic. Oh, of course.
So that's why I go here. I see. Now, I don't remember paying this much. I think the prices are up. But the mouse that I have at home to help with RSI, not what I'm suggesting for you necessarily. Right, I don't have that issue, but yeah. But it's the MX Vertical. It is really comfortable. And one of the nice things the MX Vertical does is it supports, you can use just a wireless dongle that you plug into a USB port, Or, and this is the part I think you might like, you can also pair it wirelessly with three different computers and it has a little selector on the bottom of the mouse, one, two, three, and whichever one you select it does the connection for.
So that's sort of nice to move it between machines. Oh, that looks weird. Wait, which one is it? Yeah. The MX Vertical by Logitech. Yeah. And it is a very comfortable mouse to use, but it is a very awkwardly designed mouse. It takes a minute because... Visually, yeah, I am confused. And the difference is, and why it's really good for RSI is you don't, so if you picture your hand on top of a mouse, and you picture moving your hand to go select something on the screen, a lot of that motion is in your wrist. Yeah.
With the vertical, because you're holding the mouse vertically, you don't move your wrist to move the mouse. It's a whole arm movement, and that sounds like it's more work, but it's not. And so you don't, you're not moving the wrist to move the cursor, you're moving your whole arm. Right. So it relieviates stress on your wrist, and it helps with RSI. Yeah. So it's actually kind of legit, but it's also $119 now. When I got it, it was like $89, but I bought it years ago. But Logitech did a lot of actual legit science to try to figure out how people with RSI use this thing. And, you know, it helps. I think for people with RSI, the real trick is to try different things, to use different things and move around.
But I'll put a link to that in the show notes. and then if anybody out there has any suggestions on a really great mouse okay so give us your core core requirements one more time like the. Things you gotta have yeah so not rubber or metal customizable, buttons would be nice I do have some on my mouse but I'm not necessarily using them it would be nice to consolidate the three mice to one and USB dongle would be preferred so that I can so my KVM can switch it between the two so. Bluetooth not ideal unless the mouse itself supports Bluetooth, but then it's one more thing you have to switch.
So USB dongle is ideal. And USB-A dongle. Yeah. And so, yeah, the ability to side scroll. Like if a button could side scroll or if the scroll wheel side scrolls, like that would be a weird thing to get used to, but I probably could. And that would help consolidate the three mice down to one. Some of them have like side wheels. Like I have a mouse that definitely does the side wheel thing. and then some of them do buttons for side-scrolling and like the Apple Magic Mouse, you can swipe for side-scrolling. So it's, yeah, yeah, all right. There you go. So Andrew's in the market for a new mouse.
Boost in and let us know what you think she should pick and what's worked for you. It's not an easy thing, but once you pick the right mouse, it's something that can last for a long time. This one's lasted you forever. Forever. So it's probably time. Yeah, before kids even. Well, Uncle Tim took the stage this morning at 10.02 a.m. and welcomed everybody with a hearty good morning at the Apple campus like they do now. And the secret of the event was the entire thing was shot on the iPhone 17, which is funny. They noted that because something was it seemed a little off.
The shots weren't quite as dynamic or as rich. And I thought I was I'm not making this up in the back of my mind. I felt like this feels like a tick lower budget than their previous videos. Weird. More than midway in, they say, and we're shooting this on the iPhone 17. Oh. Well, it wasn't just iPhones. Apple started, we're going to go in chronological order here. Apple started with new AirPods, AirPod Pro 3, the number 3. And the big feature for these is new live translation feature. If you're traveling, they'll do live translation. Oh, my gosh.
Welcome to the future. Huh. Um how do you feel about wireless earpods or earpods in general you're not really a big user right. Me oh that's funny i use wired ones i didn't think you were gonna ask me no i know you use the one trying to get. You to say use the wired. I do use the wired ones because i did get airpods and i uh every yeah she. Turned crazy started. Killing oh my gosh yes right no i did get a headache though or like it was it was so annoying every day after i would use them i'd have a headache and then And the next, like, I don't know, six days in, I used my wired ones, no headache.
And I thought, nope. And I gave them away. How's the fit? It was fine. It was fine. Yeah. But, yeah, the wired ones are really annoying. But the sound canceling. I was on a phone call at the football game, at Abby's football game, and they could not hear the cheering or the band. Jeez, they should feature that in a commercial. The wired ones are truly sound canceling to a degree. Wow. Because when I'm on a phone call, I can hear everything on the other side. And it's so frustrating, like, with my misphonia. So, like, yeah, a bag of chips opening on the other side could kill me. Like, I would just die.
So the new AirPod Pro 3s or whatever, they are smaller. Oh. And they have done a bunch of research on the fit. And they have a new fit and they have new tips. But the thing that I thought was interesting about these, and I'm surprised it actually took Apple this long, but I'm sure it's easier said than done, is they finally integrated a heart rate sensor into the AirPods. Interesting. And if you've ever been working out or under, you know, a lot of activity, you've probably felt maybe you can sometimes feel your pulse in your ears. Well, and yeah, and if something's wedged in there, it's definitely going to feel it.
I thought that for a while is you could, the watch has some sensors, the phone has some sensors, the AirPods have some sensors. Reconcile the data, put a good result forward. $250. Okay. Not too bad, I suppose, for this kind of stuff. Nothing huge there. I think it was just a standard update. No mention really of any improvements to the protocol of active noise cancelling, but just that the design of the AirPods makes active noise cancelling more effective. And new tips. So if you want more than just the tip, you can get it. And IP57, so it's better water protection.
eight hours of active noise cancellation, and 10 hours of transparency. So if you're using these for a Zoom meeting, not that I ever do, they'll last a little bit longer now. For me, my AirPods last about three hours of meetings. And honestly, that's more than I need all day anyways. I don't want any more than that. And you don't get headaches? No, thankfully. No. No, thankfully I don't. But I have heard that from other people, too. Yeah. We now have an Apple Watch 11, the thinnest and most comfortable watch ever. Okay.
More durable, too. Twice the scratch-resistance coating than any previous. Yeah. They have 5G in here if you want that cellular version. I have banged mine against everything. Yeah, me too. Well, you see, you know, it's on your wrist, right? I know. And mine is at least four years old, I think. So I could be due. Is there a link to this? I don't see a watch in here. Oh, I'll throw links in there. Yeah, I don't have them yet because it just happened. Yeah. Oh. So the thing that they introduced a couple of iterations ago that I would really like to take advantage of, which I haven't yet, is sleep apnea detection.
Right. Oh, they added that? A while ago, a couple of releases ago. And that almost made me buy, but I've got some old Apple Watch. I'm just trying to stretch as long as I can. Same. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? I don't use anything on my Apple Watch, and it dies by the end of the day. Like, it is really frustrating. I hate it. You don't use workout modes? Because that will drain the battery. Well, if I work out. Yeah. I just don't have any apps on my watch. I only use it to track my... It's a tiny battery. Yeah.
This I thought was a really neat addition to the Apple Watch, though. High blood pressure and hypertension detection. Oh, that doesn't seem new. It is. It's a big deal. And it takes 30 days for them to collect the data. So it's not going to catch it for everyone. They estimate about a million people. but it's monitoring your blood vessels in your arm through that lighting system they have for 30 days. And then after that, it does the math and it alerts you if it thinks that you have high blood pressure, hypertension. Interesting.
Which I would think is, because it's called the silent killer because there's not many physical tells that you are having a problem. And so it'll notificate you over hypertension issues. They say, quote, it won't detect all instances of hypertension but we expect to notify more than 1 million people of unknown hypertension in the first year. Wow. I want blood sugar detection. I would buy it on credit if it had blood sugar detection. They're also introducing a Garmin-like feature now, which is called your sleep score. Ooh.
Tells you how you did. You know, it sounds like, I think the Aura ring does that. Yep, yep, yep. Up to 24 hours of battery life now. In fact, they mentioned the battery a couple of times. Really? Mm-hmm. The other thing I like. That would be great. Yeah. I charge my watch twice a day right now. Faster charging, too, now. 24 hours of battery life and faster charging. You might also like this, Ange. They updated the Apple Watch SE, which is their kind of like smaller one. Yeah. No, you wouldn't. No. Yeah, no, I don't think so. I don't know which one I have. So the SE has a new modern system on a chip. It has a wrist temperature sensor.
Do you know what they use the temperature sensor on the wrist for? Temperature? Well, yes. But do you know what they can derive by monitoring your temperature over a period of time combined with other health stats? Whether you're sick? Maybe. COVID? Maybe. What? If you're ovulating. Oh, of course. So they have a cycle tracking system in there that uses... So where do I need to stick it? It sounds useful to me, right? Like, hey, by the way, your heart rate's going up. Just in case you're getting busy, just so you know, you're ovulating right now. I mean, that seems like they don't actually do that, but you could. Larger battery.
Okay, so I have the Apple Watch Series 7. What do you have? I went bold, and I decided to get a blue one, which I always just do like silver or black. I have green. new. I wish I hadn't done it just because of how long. Yeah, it's so ugly. And I've had it for so long, right? Like if you have it for one year, not a big deal. But if you have it for years, it matters. All right, so I have the Apple Watch Series 6 GPS. Oh, yeah, I have the 7 GPS. Yeah. And now they're on 11. This is 11. Yeah. You and I are both way behind. Yeah, no, this is good.
Yeah, it is upgrade time. One thing, so they have the SEL. We can move on from that. They also, you know, Apple has their ultra version of the watch, the really big sporty version, which has an even bigger screen. And they added, which I was hoping to see, but it seemed nearly impossible, satellite communications for like SOS. Interesting. Or to send your location. Those hikers. Or to send out a quick message. You can send out a few quick messages. But I think the big deal is you can call 911, you can ping 911 from your watch when you're somewhere without cellular signal.
You just have to get a clear shot of the sky, and then you freaking watch and talk to satellites. Wow. It's crazy. That is crazy. And also, it has 5G in there. It's also nice to have FindMine, because if you're out hiking for a while, and your friends and family want to check on you, the significant other wants to know if you're okay, it's nice every now and then to see the location get updated. So those will be shipping September 19th. And, you know, same prices. they're claiming 42 hours of battery life on the uh main watch or one of the watches 42 hours yeah i think 42 hours yeah that's not bad right yeah.
That i could just charge it once a day. Instead of twice and then we got four new iphones uncle tim came out with four new iphones so how are they all 17s yep they're all 17s it's an iphone bonanza, Screen size bumps up to 6.3 inches on the base model. It now also has ProMotion, which means 120 hertz, but it also means it can slow down. And slowing down the screen refresh means it can save battery life. So that's a big deal. And it now has a new ceramic-type shield all around it. They say it's one of. Their more durable ones. Ceramic? Instead of this metal or glass or this aluminum?
The design is mostly metal now. with a bit of glass, and then the entire thing is coated in this ceramic shield 2. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it should be a lot more durable. Maybe you won't need a case. I don't know. 3,000 nits of peak outdoor brightness is nice, too, so it's a little bit easier to read outside. And, of course, because it's a new iPhone, it means a new processor. So they have the A19, which uses an unbelievable 3 nanometer die process, six cores on there, five GPU cores. They say, quote, a huge boost from previous iPhones. And this one was big to me. Faster charge. You can get up to 50% battery in 10 minutes.
Wow. Nice, right? Okay. Yeah. The telephoto on the back is 2X. It's a 48 megapixel main camera. And the way they process it is they kind of crop the shots. You're actually taking advantage of 24 megapixels, but it's a really nice looking 24 megapixels because they use all 48 to put that together. Front camera got a big upgrade. They released a stat in this that's just so cringy. There have been over 500 billion selfies by iPhone users. The iPhone is the most selfie used. Yeah, it's embarrassing. 500 billion selfies. The girls, well, Abby got me to sign up for Be Real. Have you heard of that?
No. What did she get me to sign up for? Lock it. Yeah, lock it. Yeah, I haven't done lock it yet. So B-Real is another one? Well, I mean, it's not like Locket. So B-Real, at a random time of day, you get a notification that you have two minutes to take a picture, right? And it takes the front, well, whichever picture, whichever camera you have it on, it takes that one first and almost immediately takes the other one. So she's done some really creative ones, and it actually went off on the way here, and I think I was late. so you. You have to reveal not only yourself but the location you're in.
Basically sort of not necessarily location but like the surroundings or whatever so if you're in a messy room everybody knows i want to show you habby's because she did such a good job um oh it reminds me of instagram when instagram first started you couldn't upload a picture. Right you only. You could only yeah you had to use a live camera picture that's how long it works and that's what this is. So you know what's crazy? That's probably not even an Apple's 500 billion count. So here's one that Abby did. It does picture in picture. Right.
So she did all of her friends. Yeah, circle of friends looking down. And then the other camera took a picture of all their feet. That's great. It's so cool. It's interesting. I've only done it for like, well, five days. Here's mine. It is kind of like Instagram. It looks a little bit like it too. Yeah. So the front camera got a big upgrade. They now have a new center stage feature that automatically try to center you and the other people in front of the camera and it is now twice the size of the previous sensor so it's now an 18 megapixel front does it. Vibrate to be like you're a dumbass move your move your phone over.
So people are in there maybe like a little buzz yeah i you know i could see it they they zoom it automatically will try to like go wide and try to frame it sure yeah yeah. That's gonna distort some pictures. Though, Yeah, we're using AI to figure it out. Yeah, so the things that I do naturally to take good pictures. Right, yes, yeah. A new type of iPhone was introduced, Andrews. A new type of iPhone, it's called the iPhone Air. Okay, all right, well, let's think about it. We've heard this before with the iPad, iPad Air. It was ultra thin, right? Yeah, MacBook Air, yes, of course. So it just means thinner.
So this one's definitely going to break in your pocket if it's... Well, they claim not. This is why we'll see. $9.99, so $1,000. New total ceramic coating. They say, quote, most durable iPhone yet. High-density battery. Thinnest iPhone ever at 5.6 millimeters. 3X better scratch protection than previous iPhones. Has the A19 Pro in it. Here's the thing. Yeah. Only one camera on it. What? Isn't that strange in the era of crazy, powerful cameras? Only one camera. Maybe because it's too thin. That's what they claim. And they tried to polish it and make it sound really nice. Like they're doing a lot.
Polishing a turd. It's also eSIM only. That means no physical SIM cards, only digital SIM cards. They said to quote, Make more room for battery. So they can turn it off. Yeah, well, there's that. Big brother. Or just, you know, they can quickly probably deprecate eSIM standards too. They don't really tell us the battery life, but they went on about a huge battery and said, quote, all day battery life. The thing is wicked thin, though. It's wicked thin, which means when you put a case on it, it'll be the thickness of an uncased iPhone. Right.
So there you go. It'll be nice. The one that I think our audience would probably be interested in, probably you and I, is the iPhone Pro. So the iPhone Pro is the one I've been buying for a while now. And it saw some really nice updates, in my opinion, especially when it comes to some of the stuff that people actually use practically day to day. Oh, before I move on. They introduced a new purse strap for the iPhone. I don't know if you can see on my screen here, but you put it over your shoulder and it's like a strap and you carry around like a purse. Is that way you can smack it into stuff real good?
So does the corner of the iPhone have like a- Yep. Or the case or something. A little hook? Like a case you put on it. The case. Oh, it's a case. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Eh. You're going to be smacking that thing. All right, let's talk about the Pro. All right, so this starts at $1,099 for the Pro, and they really set out to hype up the new all aluminum custom exclusion as they put it heated and forged and then precision machined colorful and durable and what they really are doing is it's all one single piece of aluminum and then the guts all get installed inside of it that gives it a nice durability and then they infuse the color at manufacturing time and then they on the back put what they call a quote full width camera plateau but the clever thing that Apple did this time is they wrapped the antennas around the camera plateau or plateau.
And what that allows them to do is achieve a better cellular signal. You know, usually it's somewhere in the band. If you look at an iPhone today and you're looking at the edges of your iPhone, you'll notice there's little notches in the side of the iPhone. A little notch here, a little notch up there. There's a little notch up there. Those are actually the antennas. Oh. Remember old cell phones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where they live now on modern cell phones. And what Apple has done is they've integrated those into the band that sits around the camera bump. Oh, that makes sense. And that way it's not obstructed by a case or blocked or whatever.
Because your meat. Like you see where my hand meat is right now? Yeah, my hand meat. My finger and the meat of my hand are covering. And actually where my thumb goes could cover an antenna too. So right now I am covering three out of four antennas on this iPhone. Yeah. And the camera plateau is completely unobstructed. So it actually is a pretty clever place to put it. They have a new back design which is mostly metal with like a piece of glass on there too. Which they showed getting smashed into and all kinds of stuff. Ooh, did they, did they, or, let's see, what would it be?
Can you hold the phone closer to your face, or do they still recommend that you keep it, like, 12 inches from your ear? At least now it's all shooting out the back towards the, away from you, I suppose. I was hoping to see some, see them talk about heat. Because as these phones have been getting faster, they get warmer. Well, yeah, and as we have to charge them all the time, like, especially while we're driving. and if it happens to be a hot day. Super hot. And or like Telegram, you can share your location. If I'm sharing my location to more than one person, my phone's going to overheat.
Wow. Yeah. So they have what they call now a vapor chamber, which helps move heat out away from the major components and out into the outer metal shell. Interesting. Which means it might actually feel hotter in the hand, but the components are cooler. Right. Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. And then you put a case on it. Do they factor that in when they're reporting on these things? I hope, since they sell cases. Because, I mean, who raw dogs their phone? Some people do, but it just seems when a phone's $1,100 base price, unless you pay out the nose for insurance.
Huh. All right, but you know what? Faber chamber. I'll take it. They say, also, because of the cooling system now, the iPhone 17 Pro has 40% better sustained performance. In other words, you're doing something CPU or GPU intensive for a prolonged period of time. The 17 has 40% better sustained performance than the 16 because of this cooling system. I'm not sold on a new phone, but I am interested in a new watch. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of quasi in between. I'm not sure. My iPhone 14 is feeling old. Oh, and then I could give Dylan this one because he smashed his. That'd be good, actually. I feel it the most right before a trip.
when I'm doing my day-to-day life, I can manage my phone pretty well. You know, like right now, my phone's at 90% battery. Not bad at all. 62. Yeah, okay. If I were at Texas Linux Fest right now and it's noon, my phone's dead. My phone's dead. My phone's probably been dead for an hour. And that drives me crazy when I'm traveling. They do obviously have the Macs. Not much there. The Macs is bigger. The wide angle, it has a wide angle lens, so three cameras, There's wide angle telephoto, which is 8x optical, which is nice, and then the main lens, which is 48 megapixel, and then they're offering a 40x digital zoom.
So the Pixel 10 just came in with a 100x digital zoom, and Apple's coming in with a 40x digital zoom. Digital zoom's kind of garbage anyways, so it's not really huge. They also pushed a lot of Pro features for video production in the iPhone Pro for ProRes support and Dolby support and things like that. And they talked a lot about the enhanced GPUs. All in all, a decent update. I think a more compelling update than the iPhone 16 pre-orders go up this Friday, probably like at 5 a.m. or whatever they do Pacific time. And then the shipments start September 19th, which means if I did buy one on Friday, I'd have probably time to get it before Texas Linux Fest.
When is Texas Linux Fest? October 2nd. Oh, okay, yeah. Also, in that beginning, we should have done the housekeeping about no episode next week. Oh, I was going to mention it at the end. Oh, okay. I was going to mention it, but yeah. What if they just don't last to the end? That's true. Some of them do cut out. Yeah, there will be no episode next week because I'm traveling with the wife for her birthday. And then at the end of the month, I'm traveling to Texas Linux Fest. Lots of traveling going on coming up. New cases introduced, all that kind of stuff. Two, 256 gigs is the base. Storage price.
On the Macs, they're going to go up to two terabytes if you're crazy enough. Right? Yeah. Wow. I know. So let us know what you think. Send a boost in if any of these appeal to you, if you're going to be upgrading your iPhone or why you wouldn't be upgrading your iPhone. I'm a man stuck between two worlds. The iPhone 17, I think, is slightly more appealing to me than the Pixel 10. But it's not a huge difference for me. I'd like to know what you think out there. Boost in. Let us know. Also, speaking of boosts. Yeah, how about a value-for-value track? If you boost during the song, 95% of the sats go to the artist and their team.
And this week, we have Selfish by Vicious Clay. We got a batch of voicemails to get to this week. I think Andrews is over there pre-ordering herself on Apple Watch right now. She's like, I'm getting that. I'm looking at, you know, all my options is keeping it $3.99, so that's cool. Andrews approves of the new Apple Watch, I take it. All right, well, let's get to these voicemails. We got a nice batch, and the first one comes from Eric from the Our Podcast. Hello, JV Crew. This is Eric, also known as Our Podcast. I tried to call in a few weeks ago, and maybe my cell phone just started to be very angry at me that day.
Nonetheless, I just wanted to say both me and my son absolutely love this show. Yeah, the lunch thing is kind of fun, but you've got to keep it to lunch. I'm just saying. I have an angry kid behind me every time we listen to it. Nonetheless, my real question is probably not related to your show topic, but I am organizing a virtual conference in a couple months. I've been doing it for a few years now, and I'd love to replicate what you've been doing for these extremely funny and entertaining, you know, songs, AI-generated songs and jingles.
Would you mind sharing kind of the tooling behind that? Because I really want to do some fun stuff with data science and the R language with this kind of spin. Anyway, love the show as always. Hope you and Angela keep it up. And, yeah, look forward to listening next time. Thanks so much. Well, thanks, Eric. Yeah, so the tool that I probably have found the most success with is suno.com. I think it's what it is. It's suno.com. And then you've got to pay money to get access to their good model generator. So they got me. I'm paying money.
it gives me access to, I think, a slightly better version of it. And then it's all about the prompt and the vibes. And it generally takes a few iterations, in my experience, to get it right. Let us know how it goes. And if you get a good one, send it in. I want to hear it. Now, we've also had a bit of controversy stirred up last week when Brent's lawyer called in, and then Brent himself called in. And that's created a big back and forth, some team strife because of Brent's decisions around this, and Editor Drew decides to weigh in and take sides. Yeah, hi. This is Drew, the intrepid editor.
Responding to Mr. Horvitz, maybe Brent didn't let you know, but let me take you back to 2019. Brent had just purchased tickets for the Dave Matthews Band World Tour taking place in 2020, And so he was a little short on being able to pay me for editing services for the brunch. And he actually gave me a 51% ownership of the brunch. Maybe he conveniently lost that contract. I don't know. But the thing is, I am on board with the launch. And I technically own a little bit more of brunch than he does. So I don't know. You guys either have to buy me out or kick rocks. I see. Drew coming in trying to get a piece of the action. But that's strange because I swear I saw him selling 51% to Wes too.
Oh. I don't know how you could sell 51% to Drew, 51% to Wes. That's 152% of this show. What is going on? You know, we've got to figure this out. But PJ, producer Jeff, he calls in with a little common sense about it. Hey, fellas. It's Jeff. Good old PJ here. Now, I actually want the launch to remain the launch. I wouldn't mind a lunch segment. That'd be fine. But this lawyer calling in. Right. Claiming that it's infringement. Uh-huh. Well, you see, wouldn't there have to be an active show called Brunch with Brent? Because the last time I saw a show published was July of 2022.
Whoa! Hmm. Maybe there's some property abandonment here. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, but I think a show would actually have to be active for Mr. Brentley there to have any legs to stand on. So, you know, I say just go for it. Give us a lunch segment. I do love Chris's barbecue. It's great. All right. Well, y'all take care now. PJ woke up and chose violence this morning. I'm here for it. I love it. Good catch. Yeah. Well, I mean, it just doesn't work that way for digital assets. I suppose. If the feed's active, perhaps. Yeah.
All right. We'll continue to investigate. Thank you for the input, everybody. And Editor Drew will have to come up with a sideline agreement between you and Brent, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. I did play those voicemails, the lawyer and Grimm, for both Dylan and Abby. And they were very entertained. You should have seen Dylan's cute little grin while he was listening to it. It was so cute. Oh, man. All right. We got a call from a random listener. All right. So this is a random listener in Southeast New Mexico. I got a... I don't know if I'm a suggestion. What kind of suggestion?
Well, yeah. For the new show. You got to title it, right? Yeah. So let's call it 3-2-1 Lunch, right? Or maybe Scrubbed Lunch. Right? That sounds pretty reasonable. We got to figure out this Britney guy. Maybe we should contact some people up in New York. Right. Maybe get some of those concrete boots. Right. You know, maybe? That sounds reasonable. I know I'm making concrete fashion. He's messing with the business. Maybe that's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, I think we can do that. All right, we got to get some New Yorkers in here. You know, Random, why this is a great idea is Brent's going to be traveling on the East Coast. Accidents happen.
It's a long drive. Podcasting is a cutthroat business. When you get into digital media, you get in all the way. That's a good point, Random listener. All right, we had a call on AI and jobs, a topic that we brought up a couple weeks ago. Hey there, Chris and Angie for the launch. Talking about your segment on AI and the jobs. I'm so sick of that. Where do they think experienced technology people come from? If companies don't hire end-level people, eventually they won't have any experienced ones. And they'll just be stuck talking to the machine, which is brain damaged at best. Idiocracy.
It tells them what they want to hear. It's also, as the CBS thing kind of talked about, it's companies need to feel the need to juice their stock price because, after all, that's how executives get paid, right? Shares. Same shit, different day. It's not different than outsourcing in many regards. They're just another way to reduce headcount, increase the stock price. Yay. Especially since CEOs can be sued for non-performance if they don't make the stock price go up. It's a capitalization gone to an extreme. Capitalization. Capitalism. gone to an extreme where it seems to be the only thing that matters is number go up, right?
Anyhow, this is Kevin from Raleigh. We've chatted. I'm seeing a lot of it. And as somebody who's on the tail end of a career, I'm glad I'm not looking for a job. 10 years ago, I was looking and it took me uh 10 months to land a new job so this isn't really new right they're just uh not hiring the youngs because they don't have experience they're not rehiring the olds because. Kevin what i'm hearing you say let me hit the timeline there kevin what i'm hearing you say is invest in ai, play the market no I follow what you're saying there it will yeah I think it will be your lower level positions initially the younger ones perhaps it is how will apprenticeships work in this era still something we'll have to navigate, Magnolia Mayhem called in during lunch to talk about, I'm not really sure, but whatever he wants.
Hey, so it's Magnolia Mayhem. I'm just sitting here having my lunch, and I had a thought cross my mind. I want to put it to the community. Now, this may strike you as kind of an odd question, give or take, but I really just have to know. So, considering the standard definition of a furry, does Batman count as a furry? I think it's an interesting question. Yeah, Catwoman? This is out of nowhere. Oh, it's pretty much it. He's eating lunch. I hate it. Wondering, does Batman count as a furry? I love it. I mean, that is a mammal, right? Anyway. Huh.
Huh. I mean, I want to say no, because it's Batman. I mean, like, well, is he in Batsuit when he is performing? Well, is that what defines a furry? I mean, is that the only thing? I mean. I don't know. It does seem like the furries take it there. It does seem like that. Right? I mean, I guess it is. It seems like that's where they end up. It's a stereotype, right? Well, it's a stereotype for a reason. Huh. I mean, I'm not sitting comfortable with this. I have to be honest. Mayhem has stirred something in me I do not like. They are very furry. There was a, what is it called?
Formaldehyde. A preserved bat at the place that pierced Abby's septum. And they got a lot of fur. It's gross. And cute little teeth. Yeah. That was so out of left field. I think he might be right, though. I think Batman might technically be a furry. Yeah. Does he have a tail? Do bats have tails? No. But Catwoman sometimes does. Oh, so Catwoman's a... I think so. Okay. All right. Next call from Cameron, and he's got a call on phone cases. A hot tip. Hey, Launch. This is Cameron calling in for episode 33, talking about phone cases. Just want to highly recommend the D-Brand Rugged line of cases.
I've got one on my Pixel 7. It's been working great for years. It does a lot better than the cheapos that you used to get online. All right. Thanks. You know, Cameron, I looked for the D-Brand Rugged, and I found their grip versions, but I couldn't find the rugged version. And he says he has one for his Pixel 7. I have a Pixel 7. I want to try that on my phone. I'd love it. Okay, and then we got a call. It was really garbled. I could only rescue a bit of it. And I think they're asking about AlbiHub. You keep talking about this AlbiHub self-hosting. I really love to do self-hosting to try to learn that kind of stuff.
Is there a script or is there some kind of walkthrough somewhere that... Yeah, so let's talk about AlbiHub because I mention it a lot, but we don't really go into much detail. We use it here on the show. It's how Ange receives her sats for the show, is on AlbiHub. And it's really simple. If you follow a Start9 or Umbral guide, because these are like Debian or Ubuntu-based OSs that will walk you through it. And I have guides for both of them in the show notes. Simple's a relative term. Simple for this type of thing. But it is very doable, and it feels really great once you get it running. But the quick version is, is grab something like Start9 or Umbral OS, Linux-based OSes that come with the whole platform to let you just deploy applications.
And you just click a button. And next thing you know, you've got yourself an Alvi set up. Thank you, everybody who called the show. We'd love it if you called the show and leave us a voicemail. And we got some boosts, and Augustin came in with 15,000 sats and says, in Sweden, we have this thing called burn ball. It's like baseball, but with a tennis ball and no pitcher. And when I was like 13 or something, I managed to break my leg trying to slide into home base or into the base. Oh, man. I sort of fell over my leg in some perfect angle, and then I heard it crack. I was stationary all that summer a year. Keep up the good show.
Dylan is doing much better. Oh, yeah. He had to, on his first day of school, he did have to use crutches, which he hated. And I don't think. He was late to every class. He just skipped math altogether. What I told him is like, hey, buddy, you're going to have a built in conversation starter. Easy conversation coming back to school. Got something to talk about. But he's moving around now for the most part. We did a little driving around the farm in his Jeep this weekend. He's trying to accelerate. And he's trying to do it because when you have this Jeep in reverse, it's very touchy.
Like even for a very professional seasoned driver, you'd have a hard time backing this thing up because you just, you fart on the accelerator and it just leaps, right? And so he's sitting there trying to feather the accelerator, but he's feathering it with his big toe that's hurt. He's like, ow, oh, ow. Yeah. Yeah, it's good, though. He's doing much better. Thank you for the boost. Nice to hear from you, Og. And hello out there all the way in Soweedin. Podbun sent in 4,444 sats. That's a big old duck. Three lights. Sounds like Stephen King's IT. Yeah, I was also thinking Chain of Command TNG Part 1 and 2.
It says, I once pressed my finger into one of those car lighters with a little spiral inside. I remember it hurting so much and having a spiral imprinted on my finger. Ow. Your daughter would do that. Mine? Abby? Yeah, yeah. She would. Yeah, she would. Quintessential, I wish I had it on camera moment. Abby was very, very young, but maybe seven or eight. Is this the stove? We're at a birthday party, and there is a wood stove there, and she's like, can I touch it? No, it's very hot. Do not touch it. It will burn you. And then she immediately proceeds to touch the hot stove.
Okay. It's cliche, but it really happened. Sounds like Dylan, too. Well, remember you were barbecuing charcoal? Yes. Yes. And I was like, don't touch it. It doesn't look hot, but it is. And I can't remember which kid it was. That might have been Dylan. Yeah, Dylan. Or Abby. They both love it. Dylan also has to test it. Ah. But yeah, having a spiral on your finger is kind of cool for a little bit. Yeah, it is. Not how you got it. Right? You're showing everybody. Anyways, thank you for the boost. And I love the story pod bun. Sohangs here with 2,222 sats. That's a row of ducks.
Time machine boost. That means he's catching up in the back catalog and giving us a time check. Ah, yes. Still catching up on the launch? I kind of forgot about it for a while. I'm thinking of switching to Fountain FM and Podverse at least until the rewrite. Oh, from Podverse until the Podverse rewrite lands. I don't really deal with Fountain's UI very well. I just want a list of my damn podcast. Do you know when the rewrite can be expected? Maybe I'll leave a voicemail one of these days, too. The rewrite, the back end stuff is done for Podverse. the web stuff is underway right now and the front end apps are still underway right now for Podverse Fountain FM 1.3 just came out massive overhaul to some of the back end and the UI and the playback UI you're not going to like this answer.
But if you become a Fountain Premium member there's now an option to just take you right to your list of podcasts no home screen, no social stuff, just boom, right to your list of podcasts however, you may want to check it out, because what they've done now in Fountain 1.3 and beyond is they've redone the home screen. So it shows you your recently played episodes right at the top. Then it has trending episodes across Fountain. Hey, look, there's Linux Unplugged. Hey, look, there's Linux Unplugged twice in the trending episodes section. And then they also have trending music tracks in that homepage.
So the first thing is it takes you right to what you've been playing. And it's one tap, and you can immediately start the podcast with one tap that you were just listening to and find new ones. And then go to library if you want to see your list of subscribed podcasts. However, like I said, if you become a premium subscriber now, you can just go right to the list of podcasts directly. And there's more updates coming to Fountain FM. There's a lot of good stuff in there. I'd like to hear what you think. So boost in Sohang and Sohang and let me know. I'll be keeping an ear out. Odyssey West is here with the Road Ducks.
Do you guys want me to make an updated logo for the Texas Linux Fest? I'm always open to doing graphics. I would love to see it. I would love to see something sent in my way. Yeah. Yeah. We'd throw it on some swag. I really do want to have some swag. Yeah. Around sticker. Yeah. Sticker would be great. Around a die cut sticker. Something we could put on there would be really nice. Something that's, you know, better than what I can come up with AI slop would be good. Yeah. What even happened? Well we have a joke on lep that we call unpludged you know. Oh okay but it was three g's too many g's and then an eg instead of ed it's not good i.
Was trying to go for unpludged but it's. Oh well but. It didn't look like unpludged it was. It didn't i thought yeah yeah yeah it was bad it was real bad yeah he he put he put it on there and he's like can you finalize these and i went to finalize the sticker and I was like what? Is this even 3 G's in unplugged and then ending in EG? So I hid it and told him like was this a mistake? I was going for unplugged because we talk about it's our joke. You gotta be. Well that sounds like it's a DGED. Unplugged. You're telling me I had a spell unplugged. You know I wrote unplugged but you know. Oh.
Yeah I admit it. It was AI slop. Okay. Got me to admit it there Odyssey. Thanks. Thanks. Turd Ferguson's here with 13,333. Sats. As a longtime iPhone user myself, what sin, how bad of a mess up, what would it take for you both to never buy an iPhone again? Oh, that's interesting. So Chris is an early adopter and I am too, but not like he's on the smaller part of the tail of that. Like he jumps on it right away. typically. It took me until I think late 2009 to get an iPhone. I wouldn't. It'd be hard, right? I wouldn't. No. It's a different brain.
It's a different brain. Like, I just don't need to customize my phone as much. What would they have to do to make me knock it? I mean, I've thought about it. For me, it's more like corporate policies. It's not like they do something wrong with the iPhone. Well, mine is usability. Well, yeah, that's a big one. It was like if Apple became a huge jerk, again, like if they really started throwing their weight around more than they do with the App Store or something like that, I would. I mean, that's already what made me want to get a Pixel. What would they do to make me never buy one again, though? It'd have to be a pretty big screw-up.
Yeah. Because they've got it on lock. Yeah. They kind of, you know, their biggest problem is the old ones work good enough, you don't need to buy a new one all the time. Yeah. That's their biggest competition. Not so much that they screw it up. Like, I still think it's a product that holds up pretty well to the Android alternatives. The Pixel 10 and the Samsung devices are competitive. Especially if you want something like a Fold. Apple doesn't even offer that. But I'm going to turn that around to the audience. If you are an Android user or you are an iPhone user, what would your platform vendor of choice have to do to make you never want to use them again?
Oh, for you. Well, the opposite, like to stay with iPhone forever is that blood sugar. Yeah. If they had glucose monitoring, that would make me want to switch. Yeah. To me, that's why I think it's funny Turd's asking this, because to me it seems way more feasible that Google would do something that would piss me off. Just because they have more room to screw up in terms of making things worse. I don't know. But that's a good question, Turd. Chloro4 is here with 2,222 sats. Speaking about the iPhone, he says they should just make it thicker and maybe smaller in length. Yeah, you know, I do not need a 6.3 inch screen. Yeah.
I really don't. I really don't. I can get an internet paddle if I want that. Oh, and make the last one way longer. And thin is just overkill. I don't need it to be thin. Yeah. They love the thin. There is something about when you hold something crazy thin and it's like, how is this possible? It's just like nothing but glass. There's a neat feeling to that. I won't discount that. Does that neat feeling last three years? I don't know, right? It's a neat thing for the first two months you own the phone and then it's like it's a phone. Not sure. Not sure I fully get it, but, you know, they say you have to hold it to believe it. Maybe that's true.
Thank you, everybody, who boosted in five of you stream sats. You collectively stacked us 11,335 sats. When you combine that with our boosters who sent a message, well, we stacked 50,778 sats, a nice tick up from last week. Hey, if you'd like to boost in, Fountain FM makes it real easy, or you can go get yourself Albihub and do it the whole self-hosted route, which is pretty dang fancy, and we do love to see it. Thank you, everybody, who's either a Jupiter Party member or boosts in. Keeps the show going. Well, everybody says AI is taking your jobs. Well, what if the reality is, is AI may actually be creating jobs?
Because sometimes what AI produces, like my unplug sticker, not good enough. Not good enough. And NBC is covering a story of people that are specifically getting work to clean up AI stuff. AI has led to concerns that the technology could replace workers across industries. But some people are now kind of flipping the script through a new category of work. It's essentially fixing AI's mistakes. And even though companies are trying to use AI to eliminate some positions, a recent report from MIT found that 95% of these generative AI pilots that these companies are implementing, they're actually getting zero return on that investment.
Generative content can be riddled with mistakes that rarely make for a satisfactory final product. That is where human beings can come in. Writers are fixing AI writing mistakes. Artists are cleaning up wonky images. And software developers are fixing app glitches. Let's bring in NBC News tech and culture reporter, Angela Yang. She spoke to some of the... Let's not. So isn't this just... I'm not saying this is a huge trend or a huge wave. But don't you find it interesting that after all of the sky is falling, it turns out actually we need humans to still review it, so we're hiring people.
Yeah. Well, there was that whole company that the AI was humans. Yes. Right. Right. It stood for Anonymous Indians. Right. That was classic, actually. Anonymous Indians. Right. It did. Yeah. All right. So I might want to go to Bloomington, Indiana. And no. What? It's not because that's where the Bloomington Onion, the Blooming Onion's from, the Bloomington Onion. No, no. It is the hometown of Captain Catherine Janeway. Oh. And they're leaning in as a town. They're embracing it. And I love it. I got to go. I got to see it. We've been in your hometown all evening long here exploring Bloomington, Indiana, down in Monroe County.
And the town is known best as the home of Indiana University, the Beeline Trail, and Lake Monroe. But it's also a sci-fi connection for Star Trek fans. A statue along the beeline honors the fictional character Captain Catherine Janeway. Janeway led the Star Trek Voyager set in the 24th century. and she played the show's first female commanding officer. In the Star Trek universe, Captain Janeway was born in Bloomington in the year 2336. The statue symbolizes the push for kids to explore and embrace science and for all to enjoy the arts. We celebrate the arts and everything that's unique about Bloomington.
You know, there's a lot of towns and a lot of cities that say keep Portland weird, keep Louisville weird. Bloomington's pretty weird also. And that's one of the quirkiest, weirdest things about us. And we're quite proud of that. Notice he didn't say anything about Seattle. Yeah. Just to give cred to that. Yeah. But OK. Yeah. So she wasn't actually born there. No. Her character was born there. Yes. That's hilarious. I know. I was wondering. This is their weird, quirky thing about their town? Yeah. Well, they were like, she was born in Bloomington in 2346 or whatever it was. And I'm like, well, that's the future. Oh, so it's not actually.
No. I mean, it's a fun idea. It's just a statue. Do you know what she thinks of it? No, I'm sure she loves it. But I don't know. I don't love it. I love it in the sense that if I were already in Bloomington and I were walking the streets, I would absolutely stop. I would be one of the 500 billion that take a selfie with the Janeway statue. I'd take pictures of it, and I would enjoy that moment a lot. I'm not going to just go on a tourism trip to Bloomington just because they have this statue. And if this is their weird and quirky thing about their town, they make it sound boring.
It reminds me, I'm not even kidding you. This is a serious story. On one of our road trips, I don't remember which one it was, but I had Brent with me on this one. and we stopped in a diner in Wyoming and we asked, what's the thing to do here in town? And the guy says to us, well, there's a JCPenney's. Oh, gosh. And I said, okay. So the next guy we meet, listener, and we're talking to him and we say, hey, what should we do while we're here in town? Like, there's nothing to do really. He's like, hmm, well, you know, we got a JCPenney. And we're like, are you kidding? That's what the last guy said.
All the town had was a JCPenney. Wow. And this town, Bloomington, And it sounds like all they have is a Janeway statue. Backing up, you had lunch with Brent. Yeah, I know. I know. On a road trip. This was before the incident. The incident. Now, when you're a healer, you can be called, called, Colin, cold. No, hopefully not cold. To do all kinds of life-saving treatment. And often those people are intoxicated. and sometimes it's not people at all that are intoxicated it's animals and they still need life-saving help. Viral so i'm so glad you chased down the story today when fermented peaches turned a dumpster into danger long time lechard county nurse misty combs stepped in to save the day it is truly the kind of story that makes you say only in kentucky have you ever had a crazier day on the job than this i've had some pretty crazy days but no nothing like this just when misty combs thought she'd seen it all in her 21 years of nursing oh it's baby stuck is why a dumpster diving drunk turned up at the health department so our health department is right beside of kentucky miss moonshine which is a distillery and they had put some fermented peaches in their dumpster and i guess the two baby raccoons had gone into the dumpster and they were stuck got drunk as a skunk try tipsy as a trash panda i went over there and i was like we have to get them out and i mean because i guess that was just like the motherly instinct in me like i seen that mama and she was trying so hard to get her babies back but she didn't know what to do combs grabbed a shovel and scooped out the first raccoon reuniting it with its mom but the second one was in deep moonshine without hesitation she grabbed him by the tail and laid him down everybody that was around was like it's dead i mean it's just not gonna make it and it was it was.
Not breathing and it had drowned and it was full water like you could feel the. Water in it she's patting it i mean immediately i just started doing cpr on it suddenly a sign of life come on. Come on baby come on the entire time i was doing it i was sort of afraid that it would come to and eat me up and, you know, wrecking through rabies. So I was afraid of that. Fish and Wildlife responded before the town drunk turned into a mean drunk. They transported the little guy to get sobered up at the local vet. Did you just go back to work after that and get back to a normal day on the job? I sure did.
When Otis Campbell, named for the infamous Andy Griffith Show character, of course, made his return to the health department, Combs had the honor of reuniting him with his family. Goodbye, Otis. I was tickled to death that he was able to join its mom again. We all have those days where maybe we need a little moonshine and it's going to happen from time to time. Oh, okay. That's okay, too. Yeah, that poor little raccoon. I hope it stays out of the dumpster. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Combs says she is not trained in animal CPR, but she did what she could in the moment to save the little guy.
As for Otis, he has been charged with DDUI dumpster diving under the influence. Oh, my goodness. I'm telling you, maybe everywhere is just a little weird. Maybe it's not just Austin, Portland, and Seattle. Yeah, maybe. It's just a little weird everywhere. Okay, so a reminder, big reminder. We will not be around next week. We are going into what is called the Klingon pain ritual. I have to charge my pain sticks, and I have to go through a hallway. People will jab me, so I will not be. No, no, I'm taking the wife on a birthday trip down to the seaside. So we'll be gone, but we'll be back the week after.
And then not too long after that, we're going to get disrupted because of Texas Linux Fest. So we'll try to just get the calendar page updated. Try to remember to do that for you. Links to what we talk about today, all the things we talked about. Do you know where those are? Weeklylaunch.rocks can you believe it? weeklylaunch.rocks that's where you can find all of that when we are live it's on a Tuesday we have a mumble room going we're in the podcasting 2.0 apps of your choice as well as jblive.tv and recently we've been experimenting with a video stream at jblive.tv and on the various commercial video stream destinations so it's really a truly live vibe if you join us Tuesday of course we'll be out Wednesday morning in your podcast app of choice.
Shout out to Editor Drew, and we're coming for you, Brent, and we'll see you all in two weeks.
