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This is The Launch, episode 29 for July 29th, 2025. Streaming from the beautiful Pacific Northwest and the mighty American West Coast, we greet you all a good morning, a good evening, or whenever your timeline may fall. Time-appropriate greetings indeed to one and all. This is The Launch. My name is Chris. And I'm Angela. Hello, Angela. We got a nice smattering of a show for you today. Real delicious one. So let me just cover a few things. We'd love it if you called the show. You can do it right now or you can do it after the fact and leave us a voicemail.
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You don't wear a lot of branded stuff. I don't, you know, like, I mean, I've known you since the, what was it, No Fear? What was that meme? Remember people had, like, the No Fear, like, bumper stickers and shirts? Oh, and you don't remember the Big Johnson ones? Do you remember those? Really? No. These are all from our time. Well, okay. You don't remember No Fear? No. That was when we were in high school. No. No Fear t-shirts, really? Come on. Bring it up. Let me see. I think maybe I'm misremembering the. Yeah, it kind of looked, you don't remember that right there?
No. God, that looks 80s. Oh, that was 90s. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the eyeballs. Yeah, that was all over high school. Okay, well, I fail. Well, you never wore this kind of stuff. No, I was never. You never did. That's where I was going with it. So it doesn't surprise me all that much that it might have missed you. So I want to hear your thoughts on this. Let's expose your big secret. Why don't you wear shirts with phrases on them or brands? Well, I just, yeah, I've never been drawn towards popular brands, And I was raised with a modest income, I guess. So we shopped a lot at the thrift store. And I've always liked thrift store clothes.
And now, you know, with kids, well, and with myself, like I can buy something. And I know that one, if I ruin it, it's not that big on the pocketbook. You're not like 80 bucks or whatever. Right. And two, it's probably already ruined. You know, so like if it's going to shrink, it probably already did. So it's not going to shrink again. It's like getting a car that already has a few scratches on it. You're like, well, now I don't have to worry. Yeah, kind of like that. But yeah, no, I was getting dressed this morning and I thought, what should I wear?
And well, there's a couple of things. So I have a shirt that says, underestimate me. That'll be fun, which I really like. I found that last November at the thrift store, but I didn't feel like wearing that today. No, that's a phrase. Because it's a statement. Yeah. Yeah. And I was looking through my scrapbook from my graduation. And I don't know if you remember the picture of you. You were wearing that blue shirt that I got you that says www.bideme.com. Oh, God. Yeah. Teenagers are such a pain in the butt. I'm wearing that at graduation? At my high school graduation.
Yeah, I do remember it now. And it's a T-shirt, too. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Teenagers. So, you know, I did all of Chris's shopping for, you know, as long as we were together. and I would get him these phrase shirts. And at some point he's like, this is just not professional. I'm not going to wear this. And so, you know, thus ended the phrases on shirts. So anyway, I just, I thought it was, that was like a whole little. It's something I don't think we think a lot about. Like the other one that gets me and I'm not that I'd never do this. I obviously do this, especially with swag. But it's strange that we walk around with brands on our shirts, especially brands that are just the brands that make the shirt.
So not even like a red hat, you know, branded shirt. Right. But like whoever makes a shirt, Tommy, whatever, you know, but on the shirt, it's so weird that we walk around advertising these products. We look like, I mean, I hate to say it, but it's like the ultimate consumer. Yeah. Yeah. Dylan actually is very similar to your feelings. What? Mid 20s when you stopped wearing phrase shirts. He doesn't like people staring and trying to read his shirts. Right. That's the first thing. second thing though um he loves he doesn't want a front and center shirt uh you know icon or logo on his shirt like really big in the middle uh but i got him a couple years ago a black shirt with a fake pocket that has a banana sticking out of it and he loves it yeah and i don't i don't think he's listening he's right up he's upstairs but i don't think he's listening i got him a men's small version because it is getting a little small on him uh and he can finally fit in men's sizes now that he's taller than me, oh my gosh.
And so anyway, he likes that, like a subtle but not super loud. Yeah, I like that. And the kid loves bananas. I was for a time huge into those like Think Geek shirts that had like catchy tech phrases on them. Yeah, there was one on my, on this day on Facebook. It was... Geek by nature, Linux by choice. Oh, yeah. That was a good one. I was trying to remember if you did not swap them. The other one, of course, the famous one was, no, I will not fix your computer. Of course. Yeah. Yeah, there was a few. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 and all kinds of fun ones. But these days, it just, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't feel like a good fit.
Is it these days or is it these ages? Ages? Yeah, it's been a while. It's probably the ages. Hybrid's right, too. Like, I think so. My uniform would probably have no branding on it unless it was my own branding. Yeah. Because then it's like, well, that seems appropriate, your own branding or the brand of something you really like, like a company or a product like that. I'm fine with, right? If you're huge into Ford and you want to wear a Ford hat or a Ford shirt, go for it, right? Go Ford it. Go for it. I've got to just kind of be ironically funny because I like to lean into pretending I'm a car guy. I got an O'Reilly's hat.
I got it. And so I'm intentionally wearing it because it's branded. it and then you know you get used to it and uh brent and i tried to return a battery but we went into an auto zone and i'm wearing my o'reilly's hat and i'm such a car guy that i didn't really think about the fact that uh these places auto zone o'reilly's napa all their batteries are house brand oh so like if you bring an o'reilly battery to an auto zone it's immediately obvious to them it's not their battery and they're not going to accept a return. Right? But to like, so not only did we bring an O'Reilly's.
Wait, you tried to return an O'Reilly's to an autism? Well, this is Brent's fault but yes. Oh my god. It wasn't my idea. I blame Brent. I blame Brent. Wow. Didn't they just laugh at you? Well, the guy was actually quite nice but then he's like, I'm pretty sure you got it from O'Reilly's and we're like, oh really? Because this was like an old battery. And we're like, oh really? He's like, well yeah. And then he points to my hat and it's an O'Reilly's hat. And I'm like, uh. So, I've done the branded thing but not often so i'm curious out there those of you listening do you wear shirts with phrases or brands on them and if you do why if you don't why not and if you have some that your favorite do you remember no fear am i the only one you remember that no fear you know or the old you know snarky tech sayings i'd love to hear your take boost and let us know if uh you are for it or again it, Well, I didn't think we'd be talking about this one, but the Tea app has entered our domain of conversation. Are you familiar with this at all?
Not at all. Oh, good. Good. Oh, boy. Because I'm like, am I underprepared? Get ready. Okay. So let me back up here a little bit. Tea was an app where women can review dates with men. So other women kind of have an idea if there's a guy they need to avoid. Oh. But you could see how that could probably also go. Snowball. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So here's a little setup, and then we'll get to what happened next. Tonight on The Edge, we are spilling the tea on a new app, Aftly, called Tea. It's where women only can post photos of men they're dating to summon input from other women. All right, you guessed it. It's stirring up some major controversy.
Fox News' Jessica Dukenag joins us live with the details to show a piece, I should say, very appropriate for The Edge. What's going on here? Well, we all might learn something tonight, Rupin, Amy. So if you have TikTok in the last couple of days, you might have been scrolling through and seen something about this T app. If you're like me, you're not really on TikTok. You know, it's taking 20-year-old women and it's creating kind of a frenzy. You're able to post men that you're dating to, you know, elicit input from other women. It's got a lot of guys scared. Take a look.
How would you characterize dating as a 22-year-old? Honestly, it kind of sucks. Out of that, an app was born. It's called Tea, as in spill the tea or gossip. It's got Gen Z in a chokehold, spreading as it does on TikTok. Mama, we made it. Look at that. Whoever keeps posting my husband on the Tea app needs to stop. Guys, I'm trending on the Tea app. I'm trending on the Tea app. There's actually a waiting list to get on this thing. You pass a waiting list, you have to submit a picture of your face. Wow. A waiting list too, right? That's crazy. Yeah, because all the servers are going to go down from the rush.
Well, I suppose. And so it has a full KYC process where that's know your customer, where you have to identify yourself with your name, your address. You have to take a photo of your ID. Wow. And you have to take a selfie. I know there's groups on Facebook of are we dating the same guy. Oh, really? So this is just like an extension of that. Yeah, scaled up version. Reimagined. A picture of your face with an ID to prove that you are a girl because no guys are allowed in the app. Emily, anonymous here and on the app, admittedly embarrassed, saying she's a frequent user.
You can post photos of who you're dating to gauge other women's experiences with these men. So-called red and green flags. The reviews are rarely positive. It's kind of crazy. Both sides of the spectrum is really dictating my dating life now. Emily says the T app seems to be particularly popular in Middle Eastern communities, especially Dearborn. Oh, Dearborn, how the TF has gotten under your skin. All these guys are talking, too. They're all getting nervous. They're all freaking out, making TikToks about it. It offers other services, like background checks and catfish verification.
They're trying to find some type of way to f*** up your reputation so bad. I can see some areas where this could cause people some big problems. Attorney William Barnwell says it's possible men getting posted have civil legal recourse. If the posts are affecting their work, family life, or reputation, defamation might apply. Truth is an absolute defense to a defamation claim, so you can't just sue somebody because your feelings got hurt. On the criminal side, there could be cause for electronic harassment or even stalking. You can be saying something that is true, but it's being used in a way to constantly harass somebody, cyber harassment.
There are laws that cover that. He suggests to the ladies, proceed with caution. In people's outrage to want to out these bad people, it might be better sometimes just to walk away. So I just finished corporate training, and they made it very clear that things that happen outside work on social media and such can definitely impact your job. Yikes. Yikes. Ooh, could you imagine if that came to? Oh, okay. So guess what? Surprise, surprise. After this app started getting more popularity in the last couple weeks, because it's actually been around for a little while, it was pretty quickly compromised.
and it was compromised in a kind of dramatic way because they did pretty poor it was dudes the compromise i would assume it was four channers so i would assume they're dudes i don't know for sure. Oh the difference a week can make an app designed to let women safely and anonymously discuss the men they date has been hacked okay let's get to uh makia with more of the details I find it hard to believe anything is truly anonymous, and unfortunately in this case we found out that may be the case. Yeah, unfortunately, so there's that T-app that everyone has been talking about. About 72,000 images have been leaked online, and that includes pictures and photo IDs of users that are submitted during account verification.
Now, T presents itself as a safe way for women to vet men that they may connect with on dating apps. T says no email addresses or phone numbers were accessed in the cyber attack. But according to the company, the breach only affects users who signed up before February 2024. Oh, it turns out that actually isn't true. So before we get there, one false claim that was exposed is the app says right there when you're taking your selfie, it basically says, don't worry, we're going to delete these selfies after we're done. They didn't. No.
They were all just sitting on a Firebase account and they got exposed. And then another false claim is they say that it only involved users since 2024. Well, a second breach revealed that messages as recent as a week ago, including discussions about abortions, cheating and phone numbers have been accessible and leaked. Gosh. Online. Yeah. One million messages. Well, again, corporate training. This company is like liable for all of this personal identifying information like it can all be connected. Wow. How are they even, how's the app even still open?
I know what first I'm not sure about now, but at first they're like, don't worry, it's limited. And their email and their phone number didn't get leaked, but their location did. So somebody in their ID has an ad, a physical address in their picture. Somebody very quickly because of that put together a website with a pin from every user. So you could open up a map and you could see where every one of these users was at. Of course. Yeah. Serious. Wow. What I think this underscores is actually the danger of collecting this kind of information in the first place. Obviously, this app was poorly designed.
Right. And we'll probably learn more about that. But if they weren't required or didn't need to collect this information in the first place, they couldn't have leaked or lost it. Yeah. And we're going in a direction in the UK and other places where you have to do all this kind of verification. And the federal government floated some legislation recently that was the idea of essentially doing KYC for using cloud services. So if you want to sign up for DigitalOcean or Linode or Amazon Web Services, you'd have to KYC. Wow.
Yeah. You know, I've only provided my ID and like a selfie two occasions. One was Coinbase. Right. And the other was to make a payment to the IRS. Yeah, it's usually involving anything payment-wise. Yeah, otherwise I'm like... Yeah, but see, the argument is now that identity is becoming harder and harder to prove online. And this app particularly relied on verifying that it was females only. Someone also created a competing app for men to review women called Box. And I don't know how that one's going. But T was... Well, I'm sure it's not hacked yet.
Before it got hacked, for a few days, T was the number one app in the Apple App Store for a few days before it got hacked. Wow. Wow. It seems like dating apps would have solved this. See, the thing is, I don't know that I would trust other women. Women have issues that could have caused the bad relationship. There's always two sides to them. Yeah, exactly. I know. So. I don't like it. Trust a random woman. I'm wondering, though, is there like, you know, how Uber, DoorDash, and Lyft have solved this. Ratings. Where there's ratings on both sides or Airbnb. Invite the dude that you just went on a date with to rate.
I mean i guess is that where we live now i don't i don't know like it sounds like a real mess uh and it sounds like it could get real toxic very fast oh. Yeah social score like china. Yeah and i i really i really feel for these ladies too who are some of them are just trying to be safe and then they go get all their information i wouldn't feel safe after having all my information leaked and then like, if the things you said about some of these people gets back to them now and just creates a really dangerous situation potentially so something that some people thought was keeping them safe just made them a lot more exposed and i kind of put the one the fingers that poor design because like these were some of the stuff was just sitting out in public unencrypted weird yeah super weird just like.
Do they not have lawyers a lawyer team to. Well some people are suggesting maybe it was vibe coded who knows you know thrown together I don't think so this app's been around longer than vibe coding's been a meme T has taken the affected systems that they're aware of offline, but you know the damage is done so that's a wild story that we're watching going on I'll watch for the technical details if we get to learn more and if you hear of anything let us know. Well, we've been talking about AI in the workplace for the last couple of episodes, and I think I'm finally in sync with the rest of the world, or the rest of the world is getting in sync with me, I should say.
And that is from the very go, from day friggin' one, I have found Sam Altman's AI is going to destroy the world hype sales pitch as extremely tiring. It's been obvious from day one that his strategy is to claim he's building something so powerful that it creates this sales myth around it. And then he really doesn't deliver on anything that's actually all that impressive or scary. But I want to go through a couple of his most recent claims because he's been on a bit of a tour. He's been on multiple podcasts. He's been doing events. And we've gotten some recent audio from him that I think is worth going over, especially, you know, for you, Ang, as you're kind of getting your toes into AI and ChatGPT world.
Sam Altman, of course, runs OpenAI, who makes ChatGPT. And he says that there is an insane vulnerability that could profoundly disrupt society. And it's crazy that we're not working on it yet because AI is going to be so good at this so soon. We have to move right away. I'll let him say it. I am very nervous about this. A thing that terrifies me is apparently there are still some financial institutions that will accept a voice print as authentication for you to, like, move a lot of money or do something else. You say a challenge phrase and they just do it.
That is a crazy thing to still be doing. Like, AI has fully defeated that. AI has fully defeated most of the ways that people authenticate currently, other than, like, passwords. But all of these, like, fancy, you know, take a selfie and wave or do your voice or whatever. I am very nervous that we have an impending, a significant impending fraud crisis because of this. So he takes a kernel of truth and then he turns it up to 11 with the fear porn, which is actually a reverse sales tactic to tell you how powerful the tools he's making. Yeah.
And it, first of all, is a baked in assumption that the authentication technology can't improve because wouldn't there be a version of Sam Altman that's telling you the tools we're building and the intelligence that we're building is going. To help prevent fraud at a whole new scale with a whole new kind of capability. It'll prevent fraud like no humans and our previous tools could have ever prevented fraud because of the incredible intelligence of open AI, right? But instead, we're getting the flip story. So he could play it either way he wants, but it also presumes that the authentication and verification technology doesn't also get better and doesn't also learn ways of sussing out AI.
But then additionally, Finally, what's the last time you interfaced with a financial institution that authenticated you via voice? Not a super common thing. I mean, maybe, maybe some people do it, but it's just not really a common thing. I was just thinking the other day that in collections, there were collectors that would call the bank because they knew the last four of the social security number and the bank account number. And they'd be able to check the bank account balance so they could know whether or not they could, whether it was worth suing them or not.
Right. Oh, tricky. Or the debt. Yeah, I know. And so I hope it is better than that. At this point. Yeah, for real. I mean, you definitely always, the point could be made, we always have to be improving these tools. And there probably needs to be multiple points of identification if you're moving like a billion dollars. I've never experienced, yeah, right? I've never experienced a voice activated anything ever in my life. And what phone system has the clarity to appropriately do that? Like phone systems are super low bandwidth. You're not going to be able to get, it's just kind of, okay, so here's another fear example.
It's a rich person problem, maybe. It may be, yeah. So one of the things that opens up an opportunity for Sam to go into the sales mode is the topic of open AI and AI in general is pretty complicated and pretty nuanced. Plus, open AI as a company is pretty vague about their future developments and where things are going with a lot of claims that have been made. So you can actually kind of empathize with an interviewer. What are they supposed to ask? Where can they go in the conversation when there aren't really concrete details about anything and you can't expect them to become AI engineers and scientists so that way they can properly interview Sam?
That's just not realistic for somebody that's just doing an interview. So there's only real one direction they can go that everybody can connect with, that everybody can relate to, and that's fear and things that are scary because that everybody can feel and understand. And it doesn't require that you have a deep understanding of the technology. So a lot of times, just naturally, these interviews go in the direction of asking Sam what's scary. So Sam is able to embrace that and just sell like a maniac, like a psycho killer. Take a listen. He was recently on Theo Vaughn's podcast called This Past Weekend.
And Theo takes it in the only direction he knows where to go. What's like one of your fears? Like, what's a fear you have of AI? Like, if you have, like, a fearful space that it could go. Like, I know you mentioned it a little bit. This morning, I was testing our new model, and I got a question. I got emailed a question that I didn't quite understand. And I put it in the model, this GPT-5, and it answered it perfectly. And I really kind of sat back in my chair, and I was just like, oh, man, here it is moment. I'll stop here. I think it's a little weird that the CEO of OpenAI at this point in the development cycle of GPT-5 is surprised by what it can and can't do when it comes to answering email. That seems off.
But just the entire, like the way he's building this. Like now look at me. I'm like this useless human now. Right? Yeah. That's 100% what he said. Yeah. And I got over it quickly. I got busy on to the next thing. But it was like a, I mean, it's what kind of we're talking about. I felt like useless relative to the AI and this thing that, I felt like I should have been able to do it. I couldn't. It was really hard. But the AI just did it like that. Yeah. It was a weird feeling. I don't know. That doesn't mean it was a good answer. Like, you know how if you want to ask somebody something, you could frame it in such a way that you can get them to answer.
For sure. Like, that's. That's what happens. Of course, he thinks it's a good answer. But, gosh, that's. It's a sales pitch. What he's telling you is this thing is so powerful that it surprises me. So just wait till we give it to you for $9.99 a month. Yeah. That's what he's doing. And he goes around scaring the crap out of everybody in some sort of weird kind of reverse psychology sales job is what it is. It's a reverse psychology sales job. If you go talk. Oh, by the way. Oh, also, I thought maybe we'll mention this. I do appreciate that Sam has actually been very forward about one particular thing when it comes to using chat GPT.
And that is whatever you tell it, they are very likely going to have to hand over to authorities if they were ever to be subpoenaed for some reason. And I appreciate actually that he's up front about that and he's not hiding that. I think we will certainly need a legal or a policy framework for AI. one example that we've been thinking about a lot this is like a maybe not quite what you're asking this is like a very human centric version of that question people talk about the most personal shit in their lives to chat gpt it's you know people use it young people especially like use it as a therapist a life coach having these relationship problems what should i do and right now if you talk to a therapist or a lawyer or a doctor about those problems there's like legal privilege for it you know like it's there's doctor patient confidentiality there's legal confidentiality whatever and we don't we haven't figured that out yet for when you talk to chat gpt so if you go talk to chat gpt about your most sensitive stuff and then there's like a lawsuit or whatever like we could be required to produce that and i think that's very screwed up i think we should have like the same concept of privacy for your conversations with ai that we do with a therapist or whatever and no one had to think about that even a year ago and now i think it's this huge issue of like how are we going to treat the laws around this well do you think there should be like kind of like a like a slowing things down before we move there kind of because yeah that is kind of wild it's one of the reasons i get scared sometimes to use certain ai stuff because you know it's just i don't know how much personal information i scared.
I don't know should we slow down. It's human centric, human centric. It's always the direction the conversations go. And of course, there is no slowing down. You cannot stop this train. You could slow down individual companies, but you're not going to slow down the technological innovation. And even if you were to somehow slow down all the companies in the United States, you know, DeepSeek was created in China. You're going to have you're going to have innovations outside the United States. Turns out there's other countries, too. So you can't just slow it down. There's no knob to turn. I do think he's going to be lobbying and maybe he should be for some sort of legal immunity, you know, privacy protection, something that we haven't seen Google or Apple or other tech companies try to do for their end users. Maybe it's a good thing.
But you should be aware if you're given the AI personal information, it's going to remember it about you. And maybe they'll recall that at some point. Maybe it's a good thing. I don't know. I don't know. But there you go, Andrews. There's your there's your AI update. I mean, you know, it's like I don't really like the people leading these things. I don't like the people leading a couple of these different things, but I like the tools and I do use the tools. And I do think there is ultimately some very good uses for them. Maybe therapy could be one of them. I don't know. Maybe.
I mean, maybe you could build the ultimate AI therapist that has been trained from hundreds of other sources, you know, books and therapists. And maybe one day you could, especially if we ever got to the point where humans could actually train these models directly. Like if there could be some sort of interaction with imagine, I don't know, a hundred open AI hires a hundred therapists and they all work to train a therapy model. Like maybe that actually would be useful. Cool. But you would have to be very aware of the privacy implications of that. And I think a lot of people that are grabbing these chatbots, they're not thinking about that. They're not yet at least.
All right. What do you say we take a little break? Shake it up. I got a fun song. It's by the Dorfells, who are probably one of the most famous Value for Value artists in the Value for Value verse. So if you boost during this song, 95% of your sats will go directly to them and their team. And this one, it's a funky remix. It's called Bloodshot Lies. We got a nice batch of voicemails this week, and we do love those voicemails. Give us a call. And Kevin from North Carolina is our first caller this week. Hi there, Launch, Chris and Angela. In the very beginning of the current episode, I heard Pluralsight.
My employer has a subscription for all of us, and it has been helpful, especially because we had an intern come in who was just between sophomore and junior year, and he had a lot of things to learn, stepping into a big company with languages he didn't know, etc. And he was very happy to leverage that, so chop one up for Pluralsight. And then the conversation about AIs, the private AIs with the company information, you know, there's a challenge there too, right? You have to keep any PII out of there because you don't know for certain it won't leak out into some of their other stuff, even though they tell you it won't.
Exactly. My employer is standing up its own instance of some LLMs. And, you know, we work with documents that we create for the company-isms. And we work with vendor documentation. I'm also in the technical role. And you're looking up things like API references. Well, that's not in our own documents. And it's websites. So you can't exactly download the PDF of it. and who would want to. So it's a challenge. I found GitHub Copilot to be super helpful at script writing and stuff. I need a function to do this. Bloop, you have it in a few seconds. That's pretty good. Anyways, enjoying the show. Have a great rest of your week. And I'll be listening.
Oh, and this is Kevin from Raleigh. You know, Kevin, I'd be interested to hear a follow-up on how the internal LLM experiments go and if they're as useful at, like, say, script generation as co-pilot. Mm-hmm. It's funny. It sounds like he's going through some of the same stuff you are. That's nice to hear Pluralsight's been useful. A guy named Ryan's back. Hello there, JB Launch Crew. This is a guy named Ryan. Long time, tense time. Double digits, baby. I think the prompt for this week was a skill that you never thought you'd have. And the first thing that came to my mind was I can now field strip a swamp cooler or an evaporative cooler, probably blindfolded. Blindfolded, right?
so a couple years back I moved back to New Mexico to be close to my parents and they've got one of these cursed things up on their roof, and I don't know why but it has decided to just keep dying about every one or two weeks something needs to be replaced or fixed and so now at this point I know exactly, every single solitary nook and cranny of one of those guys all the parts that could go into it I mean, they're not very complicated machines, to be honest, but that is definitely a skill I never expected to have and really wish I didn't need. Anyway, love the shows. Keep up the great work, and I'll talk to you again soon.
Congrats on the Big Ten. Yeah. Well done. So, you know, I also have been. Tis the season, I suppose, I've been geeking out recently on air conditioners, trying to find like a more efficient air conditioner, because the air conditioner system I have, it's on, and then it's off, and then it's on, and then it's off. It doesn't vary the speed. Sure. And so, like, you know, you'll hear the compressor, it'll turn on, and then like, You know, 30 minutes later after it's cooled down or whatever, you'll hear the compressor turn off. And then like maybe 20 minutes like, you know, it's like if we could just keep running, but like a 20 percent be much better.
So I know what you mean. Been digging into that stuff. Thanks for the call. And somebody's got to fix a swamp cooler. It is hot out there. Yep. Your parents are lucky. Now, Arando came in with the 411. Hey, Chris. This is Random Listener. I was just listening to the latest episode of Linux Action Show. Nope, not Linux Action Show. Linux Unplugged. And you were talking about how much you're paying for hosted solution for your phone system. You should really look into 3CX. I believe you should be able to get the software all set up, like, in a day on the hosted solution, like even like Google Cloud or even on any other hardware you have.
And I don't know, $6 a month is how much we spend on Google Cloud Compute for that. It's ridiculously cheap. And then whatever you're spending on your SIP trunk, there's a bunch of options out there. Also cheap. Yeah, but keep up the good work. Love the show. Have a good one. Bye. Thanks, Random. You know, Wes Payne has been trying to talk me into just self-hosting it because he actually has quite a bit of experience with SIP systems and phone plumbing. It's one of those few skills you wouldn't expect him to have, but he actually has it down pretty well.
There we go. He didn't even have to answer that question. But I, you know, when we launched, we launched quick and we're like, let's get a phone going. And, you know, yeah. So that is a good tip. It's probably something we'll revisit. Assuming the show survives. Now, this next guy, I don't think his name is Clown14, but it sounds like he says Clown14. Now we're all ruined. That's what we're going to hear. I know. I'm sorry. I pre-fired you. Yep. And also, I think he's from, I think he's Clown14 from North Carolina. Hey, guys. This is Cloud1494 calling from North Carolina.
I just had some thoughts about this whole AI thing. After hearing this story recently that the Candy Crush developers that developed the levels for the Candy Crush Saga game got replaced with their own AI and fired the AI that they helped develop. I think it's actually completely, utterly offensive that they can, that people even let that continue. Like, if I were asked to develop an AI system at this point, I would not trust that that AI system wouldn't end up replacing me. I would just as soon quit my job. Anyway, just wanted to give my two cents on that. Thanks for the great show, guys.
Yeah, that is weird, right? You train your replacement. But I'll tell you, it wasn't just but a lifetime ago I was working in IT at a bank, and they brought in these contractors to help with some projects. And what we did was we trained the contractors, and then they fired us all. And so they do it with contractors, too. So around that same time, I was working at a collection agency, and they did the same thing. Big Bank of America closed down in downtown Seattle. They brought these people in as consultants, and then they let people go. Yeah, so now they're just doing it with AI at scale. Oh, God.
I hate that, though. I hate the training the replacement thing. All right. Thank you, Clearly Cloud or Clown14. Appreciate the call. Hybrid Sarcasm's back. Hey, Launch Crew. This is Hybrid Sarcasm checking in. Wanted to give my take on this ghosting topic. I have accidentally ghosted everyone that doesn't live in my house. Yeah. I had a sufficiently social life before getting married. Once I got married, my social life turned into our social life, but it was still respectable. We had our first child, and he is so colicky and high maintenance that we dropped off the face of the planet.
And once life started to stabilize and become somewhat predictable, give them a little bit of breathing room, we had a second child. Now that we have three kids, I have to make a very concerted effort to call my parents. I have that one friend that, you know, you send meme pictures to via text, you know, back and forth and make each other laugh. But my actual real friends stay my real friends. And we pick up where we left off when we do get to connect, which is very, very seldom. Also, a little bit of feedback on the skills topic. Maybe handyman skills. I didn't know a lot when I had my first house and I was single.
I have my second house and I'm married with a family. And I feel like I could probably start a decently respectable handyman business having done all the work on this house that I've done. Nothing so fancy as to be a professional electrician like PJ, but it could pay some bills. Anyway, that was unexpected. And thanks for listening. So it's true hybrid like you go i thought it was very noticeable going from two kids to three kids because it changes your car you go from you could fit in any car to like you need a car that can fit three kids especially when they're young and car seats and boosters and all that kind of stuff, and it goes from like your folks or whoever your family's like oh yeah i'll watch a kid or yeah i can watch two kids, You want us to watch all three kids at the same time? And it like everything just got a little bit more challenging, including socializing.
Well, and then even the first part of it, our first was Hedgerd, gastroesophageal reflux disease. So he, Dylan, spit up all the time. And my mom watched him once and she was like, never again as a baby. Yeah. So there was no babysitting Dylan at all. Despite what we were told for years. Right. Yeah. When are you going to have kids? I can't wait to see him. I'll watch him. We'll have him over on the weekend. Yeah. And actually, the other big change with three kids is when I told my parents that we were pregnant with our third, that was the end of going to their house. Yeah.
They never... It's too much. I mean, aside from major holidays, I was taking Dylan and Abby there weekly to hang out with grandma. Yeah. But nope. After that, they were not okay with that. It was interesting how it changed things. So it's not too surprising to me that people don't have very large families anymore. It's just a lot. It's too bad. It's really too bad. Yeah. But I do feel what you're saying there about slowly becoming a handyman over time. I feel like if I had somebody, see, this is what we do hybrid. We're going to business together. If I had somebody that was good at the handyman woodworking stuff, I could handle the RV repair stuff.
But a lot of RV repair work is actually woodwork. So you and I, I'll team up with my RV handyman skills. You team up with your handyman general skills. Boom. A hybrid RV business, right? Mm-hmm. Business. All right. Thank you for the call. Now, Crashmaster, he's back. Hey, JB. This is Crashmaster. I heard somewhere, and I can't remember if it was a member feed or if it was, well, somewhere. Chris is interested in going to Singapore. I've been there a few It is a nice place. I guess a cross between Paris and New York and maybe, London, maybe, Dubai, kind of all rolled into one.
Really? There's a lot of Indian culture, Chinese culture, you know, some Western cultures mixed in, Europeans. It's definitely, you know, a mix. It's definitely a modern city, nice, clean city. But it's hot, Chris. It's hot. Really hot. And the flight takes a while. So just keep that in mind. You know, it's always, always hot. So it's plenty safe enough to walk around. There's plenty of things to do. There are plenty of things to do indoors, too. And if you're going to go that far, I'd recommend going to see Kalalapur in Malaysia as well. Not as nice, but if you're right there anyway, you can probably meet up with a bunch of listeners in both places.
But, yeah, hot. Very, very hot, both places. Have a great day. Bye. I appreciate that. Crashmaster knows what matters. Today, though, right now, it's only 83 degrees. Oh. Yeah. I mean, he sure made it sound real nice. And then he rugs me with the it's really hot. Though. Oh, man. I'm sure like 84 degrees is pretty mild for over there because, you know, other times of the year it looks like it gets pretty hot. Sounds nice, though. London. Dubai. New York. New York. I can't remember the other ones. All rolled into one. All rolled into one. Now, the last voicemail, it hints at some pressure in the community.
There is a movement afoot to save the launch. Wait, what? The launch is in trouble? We've got to do something about that. You, send a boost. You, call in. You, send me an email. You, do a thing. Do some stuff. We've got to save the launch. Quick, save the launch. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, we do have a couple of boosts to get to before we get out of here. So let's do that really quick, because we appreciate everybody who supports the show with a boost. Send a message in and some value. And Adversary17 is here with our baller boost. And Adversary sent in 32,768 sats.
He says, you asked why it takes so long to load people on a plane. You might like this. And he links me to a CPG Gray video about an alternative way to board planes. Yeah. And no, that does not make me feel better. I have suffered worse ever since I saw that video, and I realized there's a better way. But I do recommend looking that up. He says, regarding AI at the company, healthcare in general is going very quickly into AI, and I work for a hospital. So it is what it is. Vendors are pushing us to use their latest AI features to do something or other.
I'm not really a fan of AI in general because of the people pushing it, or cough, cough, like Scam Altman. But I'm not so sure. I'll probably be forced to use it eventually. And the real reason for the flock cameras are because criminal pigs are at large, causing a ruckus. That's true. Wiggly is out there causing a ruckus. He sent me a boost about the Genius Act. I think it might have been for TWIB. Oh. Watch out. Watch out. Watch out. But thank you, adversaries. It's very nice to hear from you. And thank you for that baller boost. PJ's here as our next baller booster with 22,222 sats.
Uh, that's a big one too. So I'm going to call it, you know, I'm going to call it a McDuck. Since pets and escape pets keep coming up, what's the most exotic pet you've had or would like to have one day? My dad captured and kept a baby Mojave green rattlesnake for a few years. It grew many rattles and would just let you know when you walked by its tank. His name was Captain A-hole. Oh my gosh, that's funny. Yeah. Mine would probably be fish. Yeah. I've had some interesting fish. I've definitely had some really interesting fish, but just the one that came to mind, PJ, when I read that was when I was a kid and probably a freshman in high school, I caught a bass out of my lake and I put him in my freshwater tank.
And then he grew large enough to eat all the other fish in the tank over time, even some big fish, except for one other fish. But he was a real thrill because he would reliably bite everyone that put their finger in the tank. so from my grandpa to all my buddies I got them to put their finger in the tank and he'd come up and he'd bite you but it didn't hurt but everybody was so startled that's funny they'd pull their hand out of the tank what did you expect? you just stuck your hand anyways so the thing got so big that I eventually had to re-catch it which was it was a fast sucker I re-caught it and then had to let it go again because it was outgrowing the tank did you ever have any crazy exotic pets?
No not really I think the most exotic was a rabbit named Spanky. Aw. Yeah. Rabbits are great. But, and then you and I had fish and I think the placosomists were like so cool. Yeah, they are. Like so cool. And they can get huge. And not so big. Yeah. Yeah. That was probably the most exotic. What about you, PJ? Did you, I know you mentioned your dad's rattlesnake, but what about you? Is it dogs? Anything more exotic than that? Thanks for the boost. Outdoor Geeks here with 5,000 Sats. He says, If you haven't already, check out Jenny's Parks, a Star Trek cat books from your local digital library.
Oh my gosh, that's funny. Star Trek Cats. Yes. That's good to know. How can I be a Star Trek fan for this many years and still be learning about this stuff? This is great. Star Trek Cats. It's cats in space. And that one's a Spock cat. And that one's a Kurt cat. That one's a Scotty cat. That is so cute. That's pretty great. I'll show that to Bella. Turd Ferguson's here with 10,000 sats. Yeah. turd says sending value for episode 29 thank you turd nice to hear from you appreciate you appreciate everybody even those of you who just uh streamed those sats silently never send us an actual message but just send values you listened eight of you did that we stacked 5,581 sats that way when you combine it with our boosters the show ticked up a bit this week we stacked 75,671 sats thank you everybody who supports the show with a boost, Okay, I know we're running a little long. Well, longer than I intended to.
But I want to leave you with this story. Because this one is, well, it kind of makes me want to move to Florida. Because only in Florida does something like this happen. Police bust in to a Chuck E. Cheese and arrest the Chuck E. Cheese mascot while he's in full uniform. With the Chuck E. Cheese head on and everything. Oh my gosh. While kids are in the middle of a birthday party. Oh, wow. Oh, Ange, it's something else. New details into the arrest of Chuck E. Cheese, or at least the man who was dressed up as one. It happened at a restaurant in Tallahassee. A lot of family from the villages witnessed the entire thing while on vacation.
As Fox 35's Randy Hildreth found out, it was a visit the kids will likely never forget. Chuck E. Cheese got whistic. It's been the talk of the Gaggenheimer family for the last few days. Like, asking 100 questions of, like, does this mean Chuck E.'s gone forever? Like, what now? The Central Florida family was snapped in the back of this now viral photo of Chuck E. Cheese getting arrested at a Tallahassee location. Yeah, one of the patrons there got a photo of literally the cops escorting the Chuck E. Cheese mascot out, cuffed, arms and hands behind his back. He's got the Chuck E. Cheese gloves and helmet mask thing on that big mouse head as he's being escorted out the door by cops. And you can see in the background, just a group of kids watching the entire thing go down.
The family had just gotten in town to visit Grandma. Four-year-old Lizzie says she was nearly ready to help Mr. Cheese. I just didn't want to get in Weston. She's going to go help us. Then she saw the police and boom, bam. Mom says Lizzie had just taken a picture with the character. And since her old Jenny was about to take one when police walked over. I was in the midst of pushing Jenny towards Truckee. The cop grabbed one wrist and another one grabbed the other wrist, put it behind his back, told him not to resist. And at the same time, I'm pulling my kids away, like, what's going on in the midst of this?
According to the arrest affidavit, the man in the costume was Jermell Jones. He was arrested for credit card fraud. Police say he worked at the arcade and racked up a little over $100 in charges. I like this guy. So, you know, a customer leaves a credit card behind. Does he go buy a big screen TV? He buys himself some smokes. He gets himself some Whataburger. He goes to the Circle K and gets a beverage. He goes and gets a couple of meats from the meat deli. And I guess orders a replacement. There's a replacement card fee on here. But I just think it's hilarious. The most thing he's spending his money on is smokes and meat on this guy's stolen credit card.
Just some basics. A card left by a customer. Gaggenheimer thinks he slipped on the costume to hide from police. She's glad he was caught, but wish he hadn't been arrested in front of the kids. Wait a second. When they had him at the truck, they took... He slipped on the costume to... So he wasn't actually the hired Chuck E. Cheese guy? I'm not sure. That's part of the story's not clear. He does work at Chuck E. Cheese. Oh, my God. But he might not... Maybe they rotate whose mascot that day. That's weird. Yeah. Well, the kids had issue with it, too, because, you know, their dreams of Chuck E. Cheese being real were shattered by this.
Right. Caught, but wish he hadn't been arrested in front of the kids. When they had him at the truck, they took off his head and put it on top of the SUV truck. So then we went into the, well, it's kind of like, you know, Chucky's got a lot of friends who help him so he can get to all the Chucky Cheese places at once, like trying to manage the magic still while we're watching now the man get undressed out of the costume outside. This mom tried real hard. Wow. She's trying to manage the magic. That's so bad. All right. But I've been inspired. if you boost in to next week's episode with 3,333 sats I'm going to say it's a cheese boost it's a Chuck E. Cheese boost.
And that'll be your boost soundbite I mean come on how great is that yeah that is, crazy alright that's your wild world for you and I'll put a link to the entire video it's actually it gets even funnier as you watch the video, it's kind of a I mean it's an unfortunate situation but it is mildly hilarious and it's a very Florida thing. So go check it out. Links to what we talked about today, like that one, are at weeklylaunch.rocks. And, of course, we'd love it if you joined us live. Give it that special vibe. We've got a mumble room and we've got a chat room going all the time.
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This is The Launch, episode 29 for July 29th, 2025. Streaming from the beautiful Pacific Northwest and the mighty American West Coast, we greet you all a good morning, a good evening, or whenever your timeline may fall. Time-appropriate greetings indeed to one and all. This is The Launch. My name is Chris. And I'm Angela. Hello, Angela. We got a nice smattering of a show for you today. Real delicious one. So let me just cover a few things. We'd love it if you called the show. You can do it right now or you can do it after the fact and leave us a voicemail.
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You don't wear a lot of branded stuff. I don't, you know, like, I mean, I've known you since the, what was it, No Fear? What was that meme? Remember people had, like, the No Fear, like, bumper stickers and shirts? Oh, and you don't remember the Big Johnson ones? Do you remember those? Really? No. These are all from our time. Well, okay. You don't remember No Fear? No. That was when we were in high school. No. No Fear t-shirts, really? Come on. Bring it up. Let me see. I think maybe I'm misremembering the. Yeah, it kind of looked, you don't remember that right there?
No. God, that looks 80s. Oh, that was 90s. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the eyeballs. Yeah, that was all over high school. Okay, well, I fail. Well, you never wore this kind of stuff. No, I was never. You never did. That's where I was going with it. So it doesn't surprise me all that much that it might have missed you. So I want to hear your thoughts on this. Let's expose your big secret. Why don't you wear shirts with phrases on them or brands? Well, I just, yeah, I've never been drawn towards popular brands, And I was raised with a modest income, I guess. So we shopped a lot at the thrift store. And I've always liked thrift store clothes.
And now, you know, with kids, well, and with myself, like I can buy something. And I know that one, if I ruin it, it's not that big on the pocketbook. You're not like 80 bucks or whatever. Right. And two, it's probably already ruined. You know, so like if it's going to shrink, it probably already did. So it's not going to shrink again. It's like getting a car that already has a few scratches on it. You're like, well, now I don't have to worry. Yeah, kind of like that. But yeah, no, I was getting dressed this morning and I thought, what should I wear?
And well, there's a couple of things. So I have a shirt that says, underestimate me. That'll be fun, which I really like. I found that last November at the thrift store, but I didn't feel like wearing that today. No, that's a phrase. Because it's a statement. Yeah. Yeah. And I was looking through my scrapbook from my graduation. And I don't know if you remember the picture of you. You were wearing that blue shirt that I got you that says www.bideme.com. Oh, God. Yeah. Teenagers are such a pain in the butt. I'm wearing that at graduation? At my high school graduation.
Yeah, I do remember it now. And it's a T-shirt, too. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Teenagers. So, you know, I did all of Chris's shopping for, you know, as long as we were together. and I would get him these phrase shirts. And at some point he's like, this is just not professional. I'm not going to wear this. And so, you know, thus ended the phrases on shirts. So anyway, I just, I thought it was, that was like a whole little. It's something I don't think we think a lot about. Like the other one that gets me and I'm not that I'd never do this. I obviously do this, especially with swag. But it's strange that we walk around with brands on our shirts, especially brands that are just the brands that make the shirt.
So not even like a red hat, you know, branded shirt. Right. But like whoever makes a shirt, Tommy, whatever, you know, but on the shirt, it's so weird that we walk around advertising these products. We look like, I mean, I hate to say it, but it's like the ultimate consumer. Yeah. Yeah. Dylan actually is very similar to your feelings. What? Mid 20s when you stopped wearing phrase shirts. He doesn't like people staring and trying to read his shirts. Right. That's the first thing. second thing though um he loves he doesn't want a front and center shirt uh you know icon or logo on his shirt like really big in the middle uh but i got him a couple years ago a black shirt with a fake pocket that has a banana sticking out of it and he loves it yeah and i don't i don't think he's listening he's right up he's upstairs but i don't think he's listening i got him a men's small version because it is getting a little small on him uh and he can finally fit in men's sizes now that he's taller than me, oh my gosh.
And so anyway, he likes that, like a subtle but not super loud. Yeah, I like that. And the kid loves bananas. I was for a time huge into those like Think Geek shirts that had like catchy tech phrases on them. Yeah, there was one on my, on this day on Facebook. It was... Geek by nature, Linux by choice. Oh, yeah. That was a good one. I was trying to remember if you did not swap them. The other one, of course, the famous one was, no, I will not fix your computer. Of course. Yeah. Yeah, there was a few. There's no place like 127.0.0.1 and all kinds of fun ones. But these days, it just, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't feel like a good fit.
Is it these days or is it these ages? Ages? Yeah, it's been a while. It's probably the ages. Hybrid's right, too. Like, I think so. My uniform would probably have no branding on it unless it was my own branding. Yeah. Because then it's like, well, that seems appropriate, your own branding or the brand of something you really like, like a company or a product like that. I'm fine with, right? If you're huge into Ford and you want to wear a Ford hat or a Ford shirt, go for it, right? Go Ford it. Go for it. I've got to just kind of be ironically funny because I like to lean into pretending I'm a car guy. I got an O'Reilly's hat.
I got it. And so I'm intentionally wearing it because it's branded. it and then you know you get used to it and uh brent and i tried to return a battery but we went into an auto zone and i'm wearing my o'reilly's hat and i'm such a car guy that i didn't really think about the fact that uh these places auto zone o'reilly's napa all their batteries are house brand oh so like if you bring an o'reilly battery to an auto zone it's immediately obvious to them it's not their battery and they're not going to accept a return. Right? But to like, so not only did we bring an O'Reilly's.
Wait, you tried to return an O'Reilly's to an autism? Well, this is Brent's fault but yes. Oh my god. It wasn't my idea. I blame Brent. I blame Brent. Wow. Didn't they just laugh at you? Well, the guy was actually quite nice but then he's like, I'm pretty sure you got it from O'Reilly's and we're like, oh really? Because this was like an old battery. And we're like, oh really? He's like, well yeah. And then he points to my hat and it's an O'Reilly's hat. And I'm like, uh. So, I've done the branded thing but not often so i'm curious out there those of you listening do you wear shirts with phrases or brands on them and if you do why if you don't why not and if you have some that your favorite do you remember no fear am i the only one you remember that no fear you know or the old you know snarky tech sayings i'd love to hear your take boost and let us know if uh you are for it or again it, Well, I didn't think we'd be talking about this one, but the Tea app has entered our domain of conversation. Are you familiar with this at all?
Not at all. Oh, good. Good. Oh, boy. Because I'm like, am I underprepared? Get ready. Okay. So let me back up here a little bit. Tea was an app where women can review dates with men. So other women kind of have an idea if there's a guy they need to avoid. Oh. But you could see how that could probably also go. Snowball. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So here's a little setup, and then we'll get to what happened next. Tonight on The Edge, we are spilling the tea on a new app, Aftly, called Tea. It's where women only can post photos of men they're dating to summon input from other women. All right, you guessed it. It's stirring up some major controversy.
Fox News' Jessica Dukenag joins us live with the details to show a piece, I should say, very appropriate for The Edge. What's going on here? Well, we all might learn something tonight, Rupin, Amy. So if you have TikTok in the last couple of days, you might have been scrolling through and seen something about this T app. If you're like me, you're not really on TikTok. You know, it's taking 20-year-old women and it's creating kind of a frenzy. You're able to post men that you're dating to, you know, elicit input from other women. It's got a lot of guys scared. Take a look.
How would you characterize dating as a 22-year-old? Honestly, it kind of sucks. Out of that, an app was born. It's called Tea, as in spill the tea or gossip. It's got Gen Z in a chokehold, spreading as it does on TikTok. Mama, we made it. Look at that. Whoever keeps posting my husband on the Tea app needs to stop. Guys, I'm trending on the Tea app. I'm trending on the Tea app. There's actually a waiting list to get on this thing. You pass a waiting list, you have to submit a picture of your face. Wow. A waiting list too, right? That's crazy. Yeah, because all the servers are going to go down from the rush.
Well, I suppose. And so it has a full KYC process where that's know your customer, where you have to identify yourself with your name, your address. You have to take a photo of your ID. Wow. And you have to take a selfie. I know there's groups on Facebook of are we dating the same guy. Oh, really? So this is just like an extension of that. Yeah, scaled up version. Reimagined. A picture of your face with an ID to prove that you are a girl because no guys are allowed in the app. Emily, anonymous here and on the app, admittedly embarrassed, saying she's a frequent user.
You can post photos of who you're dating to gauge other women's experiences with these men. So-called red and green flags. The reviews are rarely positive. It's kind of crazy. Both sides of the spectrum is really dictating my dating life now. Emily says the T app seems to be particularly popular in Middle Eastern communities, especially Dearborn. Oh, Dearborn, how the TF has gotten under your skin. All these guys are talking, too. They're all getting nervous. They're all freaking out, making TikToks about it. It offers other services, like background checks and catfish verification.
They're trying to find some type of way to f*** up your reputation so bad. I can see some areas where this could cause people some big problems. Attorney William Barnwell says it's possible men getting posted have civil legal recourse. If the posts are affecting their work, family life, or reputation, defamation might apply. Truth is an absolute defense to a defamation claim, so you can't just sue somebody because your feelings got hurt. On the criminal side, there could be cause for electronic harassment or even stalking. You can be saying something that is true, but it's being used in a way to constantly harass somebody, cyber harassment.
There are laws that cover that. He suggests to the ladies, proceed with caution. In people's outrage to want to out these bad people, it might be better sometimes just to walk away. So I just finished corporate training, and they made it very clear that things that happen outside work on social media and such can definitely impact your job. Yikes. Yikes. Ooh, could you imagine if that came to? Oh, okay. So guess what? Surprise, surprise. After this app started getting more popularity in the last couple weeks, because it's actually been around for a little while, it was pretty quickly compromised.
and it was compromised in a kind of dramatic way because they did pretty poor it was dudes the compromise i would assume it was four channers so i would assume they're dudes i don't know for sure. Oh the difference a week can make an app designed to let women safely and anonymously discuss the men they date has been hacked okay let's get to uh makia with more of the details I find it hard to believe anything is truly anonymous, and unfortunately in this case we found out that may be the case. Yeah, unfortunately, so there's that T-app that everyone has been talking about. About 72,000 images have been leaked online, and that includes pictures and photo IDs of users that are submitted during account verification.
Now, T presents itself as a safe way for women to vet men that they may connect with on dating apps. T says no email addresses or phone numbers were accessed in the cyber attack. But according to the company, the breach only affects users who signed up before February 2024. Oh, it turns out that actually isn't true. So before we get there, one false claim that was exposed is the app says right there when you're taking your selfie, it basically says, don't worry, we're going to delete these selfies after we're done. They didn't. No.
They were all just sitting on a Firebase account and they got exposed. And then another false claim is they say that it only involved users since 2024. Well, a second breach revealed that messages as recent as a week ago, including discussions about abortions, cheating and phone numbers have been accessible and leaked. Gosh. Online. Yeah. One million messages. Well, again, corporate training. This company is like liable for all of this personal identifying information like it can all be connected. Wow. How are they even, how's the app even still open?
I know what first I'm not sure about now, but at first they're like, don't worry, it's limited. And their email and their phone number didn't get leaked, but their location did. So somebody in their ID has an ad, a physical address in their picture. Somebody very quickly because of that put together a website with a pin from every user. So you could open up a map and you could see where every one of these users was at. Of course. Yeah. Serious. Wow. What I think this underscores is actually the danger of collecting this kind of information in the first place. Obviously, this app was poorly designed.
Right. And we'll probably learn more about that. But if they weren't required or didn't need to collect this information in the first place, they couldn't have leaked or lost it. Yeah. And we're going in a direction in the UK and other places where you have to do all this kind of verification. And the federal government floated some legislation recently that was the idea of essentially doing KYC for using cloud services. So if you want to sign up for DigitalOcean or Linode or Amazon Web Services, you'd have to KYC. Wow.
Yeah. You know, I've only provided my ID and like a selfie two occasions. One was Coinbase. Right. And the other was to make a payment to the IRS. Yeah, it's usually involving anything payment-wise. Yeah, otherwise I'm like... Yeah, but see, the argument is now that identity is becoming harder and harder to prove online. And this app particularly relied on verifying that it was females only. Someone also created a competing app for men to review women called Box. And I don't know how that one's going. But T was... Well, I'm sure it's not hacked yet.
Before it got hacked, for a few days, T was the number one app in the Apple App Store for a few days before it got hacked. Wow. Wow. It seems like dating apps would have solved this. See, the thing is, I don't know that I would trust other women. Women have issues that could have caused the bad relationship. There's always two sides to them. Yeah, exactly. I know. So. I don't like it. Trust a random woman. I'm wondering, though, is there like, you know, how Uber, DoorDash, and Lyft have solved this. Ratings. Where there's ratings on both sides or Airbnb. Invite the dude that you just went on a date with to rate.
I mean i guess is that where we live now i don't i don't know like it sounds like a real mess uh and it sounds like it could get real toxic very fast oh. Yeah social score like china. Yeah and i i really i really feel for these ladies too who are some of them are just trying to be safe and then they go get all their information i wouldn't feel safe after having all my information leaked and then like, if the things you said about some of these people gets back to them now and just creates a really dangerous situation potentially so something that some people thought was keeping them safe just made them a lot more exposed and i kind of put the one the fingers that poor design because like these were some of the stuff was just sitting out in public unencrypted weird yeah super weird just like.
Do they not have lawyers a lawyer team to. Well some people are suggesting maybe it was vibe coded who knows you know thrown together I don't think so this app's been around longer than vibe coding's been a meme T has taken the affected systems that they're aware of offline, but you know the damage is done so that's a wild story that we're watching going on I'll watch for the technical details if we get to learn more and if you hear of anything let us know. Well, we've been talking about AI in the workplace for the last couple of episodes, and I think I'm finally in sync with the rest of the world, or the rest of the world is getting in sync with me, I should say.
And that is from the very go, from day friggin' one, I have found Sam Altman's AI is going to destroy the world hype sales pitch as extremely tiring. It's been obvious from day one that his strategy is to claim he's building something so powerful that it creates this sales myth around it. And then he really doesn't deliver on anything that's actually all that impressive or scary. But I want to go through a couple of his most recent claims because he's been on a bit of a tour. He's been on multiple podcasts. He's been doing events. And we've gotten some recent audio from him that I think is worth going over, especially, you know, for you, Ang, as you're kind of getting your toes into AI and ChatGPT world.
Sam Altman, of course, runs OpenAI, who makes ChatGPT. And he says that there is an insane vulnerability that could profoundly disrupt society. And it's crazy that we're not working on it yet because AI is going to be so good at this so soon. We have to move right away. I'll let him say it. I am very nervous about this. A thing that terrifies me is apparently there are still some financial institutions that will accept a voice print as authentication for you to, like, move a lot of money or do something else. You say a challenge phrase and they just do it.
That is a crazy thing to still be doing. Like, AI has fully defeated that. AI has fully defeated most of the ways that people authenticate currently, other than, like, passwords. But all of these, like, fancy, you know, take a selfie and wave or do your voice or whatever. I am very nervous that we have an impending, a significant impending fraud crisis because of this. So he takes a kernel of truth and then he turns it up to 11 with the fear porn, which is actually a reverse sales tactic to tell you how powerful the tools he's making. Yeah.
And it, first of all, is a baked in assumption that the authentication technology can't improve because wouldn't there be a version of Sam Altman that's telling you the tools we're building and the intelligence that we're building is going. To help prevent fraud at a whole new scale with a whole new kind of capability. It'll prevent fraud like no humans and our previous tools could have ever prevented fraud because of the incredible intelligence of open AI, right? But instead, we're getting the flip story. So he could play it either way he wants, but it also presumes that the authentication and verification technology doesn't also get better and doesn't also learn ways of sussing out AI.
But then additionally, Finally, what's the last time you interfaced with a financial institution that authenticated you via voice? Not a super common thing. I mean, maybe, maybe some people do it, but it's just not really a common thing. I was just thinking the other day that in collections, there were collectors that would call the bank because they knew the last four of the social security number and the bank account number. And they'd be able to check the bank account balance so they could know whether or not they could, whether it was worth suing them or not.
Right. Oh, tricky. Or the debt. Yeah, I know. And so I hope it is better than that. At this point. Yeah, for real. I mean, you definitely always, the point could be made, we always have to be improving these tools. And there probably needs to be multiple points of identification if you're moving like a billion dollars. I've never experienced, yeah, right? I've never experienced a voice activated anything ever in my life. And what phone system has the clarity to appropriately do that? Like phone systems are super low bandwidth. You're not going to be able to get, it's just kind of, okay, so here's another fear example.
It's a rich person problem, maybe. It may be, yeah. So one of the things that opens up an opportunity for Sam to go into the sales mode is the topic of open AI and AI in general is pretty complicated and pretty nuanced. Plus, open AI as a company is pretty vague about their future developments and where things are going with a lot of claims that have been made. So you can actually kind of empathize with an interviewer. What are they supposed to ask? Where can they go in the conversation when there aren't really concrete details about anything and you can't expect them to become AI engineers and scientists so that way they can properly interview Sam?
That's just not realistic for somebody that's just doing an interview. So there's only real one direction they can go that everybody can connect with, that everybody can relate to, and that's fear and things that are scary because that everybody can feel and understand. And it doesn't require that you have a deep understanding of the technology. So a lot of times, just naturally, these interviews go in the direction of asking Sam what's scary. So Sam is able to embrace that and just sell like a maniac, like a psycho killer. Take a listen. He was recently on Theo Vaughn's podcast called This Past Weekend.
And Theo takes it in the only direction he knows where to go. What's like one of your fears? Like, what's a fear you have of AI? Like, if you have, like, a fearful space that it could go. Like, I know you mentioned it a little bit. This morning, I was testing our new model, and I got a question. I got emailed a question that I didn't quite understand. And I put it in the model, this GPT-5, and it answered it perfectly. And I really kind of sat back in my chair, and I was just like, oh, man, here it is moment. I'll stop here. I think it's a little weird that the CEO of OpenAI at this point in the development cycle of GPT-5 is surprised by what it can and can't do when it comes to answering email. That seems off.
But just the entire, like the way he's building this. Like now look at me. I'm like this useless human now. Right? Yeah. That's 100% what he said. Yeah. And I got over it quickly. I got busy on to the next thing. But it was like a, I mean, it's what kind of we're talking about. I felt like useless relative to the AI and this thing that, I felt like I should have been able to do it. I couldn't. It was really hard. But the AI just did it like that. Yeah. It was a weird feeling. I don't know. That doesn't mean it was a good answer. Like, you know how if you want to ask somebody something, you could frame it in such a way that you can get them to answer.
For sure. Like, that's. That's what happens. Of course, he thinks it's a good answer. But, gosh, that's. It's a sales pitch. What he's telling you is this thing is so powerful that it surprises me. So just wait till we give it to you for $9.99 a month. Yeah. That's what he's doing. And he goes around scaring the crap out of everybody in some sort of weird kind of reverse psychology sales job is what it is. It's a reverse psychology sales job. If you go talk. Oh, by the way. Oh, also, I thought maybe we'll mention this. I do appreciate that Sam has actually been very forward about one particular thing when it comes to using chat GPT.
And that is whatever you tell it, they are very likely going to have to hand over to authorities if they were ever to be subpoenaed for some reason. And I appreciate actually that he's up front about that and he's not hiding that. I think we will certainly need a legal or a policy framework for AI. one example that we've been thinking about a lot this is like a maybe not quite what you're asking this is like a very human centric version of that question people talk about the most personal shit in their lives to chat gpt it's you know people use it young people especially like use it as a therapist a life coach having these relationship problems what should i do and right now if you talk to a therapist or a lawyer or a doctor about those problems there's like legal privilege for it you know like it's there's doctor patient confidentiality there's legal confidentiality whatever and we don't we haven't figured that out yet for when you talk to chat gpt so if you go talk to chat gpt about your most sensitive stuff and then there's like a lawsuit or whatever like we could be required to produce that and i think that's very screwed up i think we should have like the same concept of privacy for your conversations with ai that we do with a therapist or whatever and no one had to think about that even a year ago and now i think it's this huge issue of like how are we going to treat the laws around this well do you think there should be like kind of like a like a slowing things down before we move there kind of because yeah that is kind of wild it's one of the reasons i get scared sometimes to use certain ai stuff because you know it's just i don't know how much personal information i scared.
I don't know should we slow down. It's human centric, human centric. It's always the direction the conversations go. And of course, there is no slowing down. You cannot stop this train. You could slow down individual companies, but you're not going to slow down the technological innovation. And even if you were to somehow slow down all the companies in the United States, you know, DeepSeek was created in China. You're going to have you're going to have innovations outside the United States. Turns out there's other countries, too. So you can't just slow it down. There's no knob to turn. I do think he's going to be lobbying and maybe he should be for some sort of legal immunity, you know, privacy protection, something that we haven't seen Google or Apple or other tech companies try to do for their end users. Maybe it's a good thing.
But you should be aware if you're given the AI personal information, it's going to remember it about you. And maybe they'll recall that at some point. Maybe it's a good thing. I don't know. I don't know. But there you go, Andrews. There's your there's your AI update. I mean, you know, it's like I don't really like the people leading these things. I don't like the people leading a couple of these different things, but I like the tools and I do use the tools. And I do think there is ultimately some very good uses for them. Maybe therapy could be one of them. I don't know. Maybe.
I mean, maybe you could build the ultimate AI therapist that has been trained from hundreds of other sources, you know, books and therapists. And maybe one day you could, especially if we ever got to the point where humans could actually train these models directly. Like if there could be some sort of interaction with imagine, I don't know, a hundred open AI hires a hundred therapists and they all work to train a therapy model. Like maybe that actually would be useful. Cool. But you would have to be very aware of the privacy implications of that. And I think a lot of people that are grabbing these chatbots, they're not thinking about that. They're not yet at least.
All right. What do you say we take a little break? Shake it up. I got a fun song. It's by the Dorfells, who are probably one of the most famous Value for Value artists in the Value for Value verse. So if you boost during this song, 95% of your sats will go directly to them and their team. And this one, it's a funky remix. It's called Bloodshot Lies. We got a nice batch of voicemails this week, and we do love those voicemails. Give us a call. And Kevin from North Carolina is our first caller this week. Hi there, Launch, Chris and Angela. In the very beginning of the current episode, I heard Pluralsight.
My employer has a subscription for all of us, and it has been helpful, especially because we had an intern come in who was just between sophomore and junior year, and he had a lot of things to learn, stepping into a big company with languages he didn't know, etc. And he was very happy to leverage that, so chop one up for Pluralsight. And then the conversation about AIs, the private AIs with the company information, you know, there's a challenge there too, right? You have to keep any PII out of there because you don't know for certain it won't leak out into some of their other stuff, even though they tell you it won't.
Exactly. My employer is standing up its own instance of some LLMs. And, you know, we work with documents that we create for the company-isms. And we work with vendor documentation. I'm also in the technical role. And you're looking up things like API references. Well, that's not in our own documents. And it's websites. So you can't exactly download the PDF of it. and who would want to. So it's a challenge. I found GitHub Copilot to be super helpful at script writing and stuff. I need a function to do this. Bloop, you have it in a few seconds. That's pretty good. Anyways, enjoying the show. Have a great rest of your week. And I'll be listening.
Oh, and this is Kevin from Raleigh. You know, Kevin, I'd be interested to hear a follow-up on how the internal LLM experiments go and if they're as useful at, like, say, script generation as co-pilot. Mm-hmm. It's funny. It sounds like he's going through some of the same stuff you are. That's nice to hear Pluralsight's been useful. A guy named Ryan's back. Hello there, JB Launch Crew. This is a guy named Ryan. Long time, tense time. Double digits, baby. I think the prompt for this week was a skill that you never thought you'd have. And the first thing that came to my mind was I can now field strip a swamp cooler or an evaporative cooler, probably blindfolded. Blindfolded, right?
so a couple years back I moved back to New Mexico to be close to my parents and they've got one of these cursed things up on their roof, and I don't know why but it has decided to just keep dying about every one or two weeks something needs to be replaced or fixed and so now at this point I know exactly, every single solitary nook and cranny of one of those guys all the parts that could go into it I mean, they're not very complicated machines, to be honest, but that is definitely a skill I never expected to have and really wish I didn't need. Anyway, love the shows. Keep up the great work, and I'll talk to you again soon.
Congrats on the Big Ten. Yeah. Well done. So, you know, I also have been. Tis the season, I suppose, I've been geeking out recently on air conditioners, trying to find like a more efficient air conditioner, because the air conditioner system I have, it's on, and then it's off, and then it's on, and then it's off. It doesn't vary the speed. Sure. And so, like, you know, you'll hear the compressor, it'll turn on, and then like, You know, 30 minutes later after it's cooled down or whatever, you'll hear the compressor turn off. And then like maybe 20 minutes like, you know, it's like if we could just keep running, but like a 20 percent be much better.
So I know what you mean. Been digging into that stuff. Thanks for the call. And somebody's got to fix a swamp cooler. It is hot out there. Yep. Your parents are lucky. Now, Arando came in with the 411. Hey, Chris. This is Random Listener. I was just listening to the latest episode of Linux Action Show. Nope, not Linux Action Show. Linux Unplugged. And you were talking about how much you're paying for hosted solution for your phone system. You should really look into 3CX. I believe you should be able to get the software all set up, like, in a day on the hosted solution, like even like Google Cloud or even on any other hardware you have.
And I don't know, $6 a month is how much we spend on Google Cloud Compute for that. It's ridiculously cheap. And then whatever you're spending on your SIP trunk, there's a bunch of options out there. Also cheap. Yeah, but keep up the good work. Love the show. Have a good one. Bye. Thanks, Random. You know, Wes Payne has been trying to talk me into just self-hosting it because he actually has quite a bit of experience with SIP systems and phone plumbing. It's one of those few skills you wouldn't expect him to have, but he actually has it down pretty well.
There we go. He didn't even have to answer that question. But I, you know, when we launched, we launched quick and we're like, let's get a phone going. And, you know, yeah. So that is a good tip. It's probably something we'll revisit. Assuming the show survives. Now, this next guy, I don't think his name is Clown14, but it sounds like he says Clown14. Now we're all ruined. That's what we're going to hear. I know. I'm sorry. I pre-fired you. Yep. And also, I think he's from, I think he's Clown14 from North Carolina. Hey, guys. This is Cloud1494 calling from North Carolina.
I just had some thoughts about this whole AI thing. After hearing this story recently that the Candy Crush developers that developed the levels for the Candy Crush Saga game got replaced with their own AI and fired the AI that they helped develop. I think it's actually completely, utterly offensive that they can, that people even let that continue. Like, if I were asked to develop an AI system at this point, I would not trust that that AI system wouldn't end up replacing me. I would just as soon quit my job. Anyway, just wanted to give my two cents on that. Thanks for the great show, guys.
Yeah, that is weird, right? You train your replacement. But I'll tell you, it wasn't just but a lifetime ago I was working in IT at a bank, and they brought in these contractors to help with some projects. And what we did was we trained the contractors, and then they fired us all. And so they do it with contractors, too. So around that same time, I was working at a collection agency, and they did the same thing. Big Bank of America closed down in downtown Seattle. They brought these people in as consultants, and then they let people go. Yeah, so now they're just doing it with AI at scale. Oh, God.
I hate that, though. I hate the training the replacement thing. All right. Thank you, Clearly Cloud or Clown14. Appreciate the call. Hybrid Sarcasm's back. Hey, Launch Crew. This is Hybrid Sarcasm checking in. Wanted to give my take on this ghosting topic. I have accidentally ghosted everyone that doesn't live in my house. Yeah. I had a sufficiently social life before getting married. Once I got married, my social life turned into our social life, but it was still respectable. We had our first child, and he is so colicky and high maintenance that we dropped off the face of the planet.
And once life started to stabilize and become somewhat predictable, give them a little bit of breathing room, we had a second child. Now that we have three kids, I have to make a very concerted effort to call my parents. I have that one friend that, you know, you send meme pictures to via text, you know, back and forth and make each other laugh. But my actual real friends stay my real friends. And we pick up where we left off when we do get to connect, which is very, very seldom. Also, a little bit of feedback on the skills topic. Maybe handyman skills. I didn't know a lot when I had my first house and I was single.
I have my second house and I'm married with a family. And I feel like I could probably start a decently respectable handyman business having done all the work on this house that I've done. Nothing so fancy as to be a professional electrician like PJ, but it could pay some bills. Anyway, that was unexpected. And thanks for listening. So it's true hybrid like you go i thought it was very noticeable going from two kids to three kids because it changes your car you go from you could fit in any car to like you need a car that can fit three kids especially when they're young and car seats and boosters and all that kind of stuff, and it goes from like your folks or whoever your family's like oh yeah i'll watch a kid or yeah i can watch two kids, You want us to watch all three kids at the same time? And it like everything just got a little bit more challenging, including socializing.
Well, and then even the first part of it, our first was Hedgerd, gastroesophageal reflux disease. So he, Dylan, spit up all the time. And my mom watched him once and she was like, never again as a baby. Yeah. So there was no babysitting Dylan at all. Despite what we were told for years. Right. Yeah. When are you going to have kids? I can't wait to see him. I'll watch him. We'll have him over on the weekend. Yeah. And actually, the other big change with three kids is when I told my parents that we were pregnant with our third, that was the end of going to their house. Yeah.
They never... It's too much. I mean, aside from major holidays, I was taking Dylan and Abby there weekly to hang out with grandma. Yeah. But nope. After that, they were not okay with that. It was interesting how it changed things. So it's not too surprising to me that people don't have very large families anymore. It's just a lot. It's too bad. It's really too bad. Yeah. But I do feel what you're saying there about slowly becoming a handyman over time. I feel like if I had somebody, see, this is what we do hybrid. We're going to business together. If I had somebody that was good at the handyman woodworking stuff, I could handle the RV repair stuff.
But a lot of RV repair work is actually woodwork. So you and I, I'll team up with my RV handyman skills. You team up with your handyman general skills. Boom. A hybrid RV business, right? Mm-hmm. Business. All right. Thank you for the call. Now, Crashmaster, he's back. Hey, JB. This is Crashmaster. I heard somewhere, and I can't remember if it was a member feed or if it was, well, somewhere. Chris is interested in going to Singapore. I've been there a few It is a nice place. I guess a cross between Paris and New York and maybe, London, maybe, Dubai, kind of all rolled into one.
Really? There's a lot of Indian culture, Chinese culture, you know, some Western cultures mixed in, Europeans. It's definitely, you know, a mix. It's definitely a modern city, nice, clean city. But it's hot, Chris. It's hot. Really hot. And the flight takes a while. So just keep that in mind. You know, it's always, always hot. So it's plenty safe enough to walk around. There's plenty of things to do. There are plenty of things to do indoors, too. And if you're going to go that far, I'd recommend going to see Kalalapur in Malaysia as well. Not as nice, but if you're right there anyway, you can probably meet up with a bunch of listeners in both places.
But, yeah, hot. Very, very hot, both places. Have a great day. Bye. I appreciate that. Crashmaster knows what matters. Today, though, right now, it's only 83 degrees. Oh. Yeah. I mean, he sure made it sound real nice. And then he rugs me with the it's really hot. Though. Oh, man. I'm sure like 84 degrees is pretty mild for over there because, you know, other times of the year it looks like it gets pretty hot. Sounds nice, though. London. Dubai. New York. New York. I can't remember the other ones. All rolled into one. All rolled into one. Now, the last voicemail, it hints at some pressure in the community.
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He says, you asked why it takes so long to load people on a plane. You might like this. And he links me to a CPG Gray video about an alternative way to board planes. Yeah. And no, that does not make me feel better. I have suffered worse ever since I saw that video, and I realized there's a better way. But I do recommend looking that up. He says, regarding AI at the company, healthcare in general is going very quickly into AI, and I work for a hospital. So it is what it is. Vendors are pushing us to use their latest AI features to do something or other.
I'm not really a fan of AI in general because of the people pushing it, or cough, cough, like Scam Altman. But I'm not so sure. I'll probably be forced to use it eventually. And the real reason for the flock cameras are because criminal pigs are at large, causing a ruckus. That's true. Wiggly is out there causing a ruckus. He sent me a boost about the Genius Act. I think it might have been for TWIB. Oh. Watch out. Watch out. Watch out. But thank you, adversaries. It's very nice to hear from you. And thank you for that baller boost. PJ's here as our next baller booster with 22,222 sats.
Uh, that's a big one too. So I'm going to call it, you know, I'm going to call it a McDuck. Since pets and escape pets keep coming up, what's the most exotic pet you've had or would like to have one day? My dad captured and kept a baby Mojave green rattlesnake for a few years. It grew many rattles and would just let you know when you walked by its tank. His name was Captain A-hole. Oh my gosh, that's funny. Yeah. Mine would probably be fish. Yeah. I've had some interesting fish. I've definitely had some really interesting fish, but just the one that came to mind, PJ, when I read that was when I was a kid and probably a freshman in high school, I caught a bass out of my lake and I put him in my freshwater tank.
And then he grew large enough to eat all the other fish in the tank over time, even some big fish, except for one other fish. But he was a real thrill because he would reliably bite everyone that put their finger in the tank. so from my grandpa to all my buddies I got them to put their finger in the tank and he'd come up and he'd bite you but it didn't hurt but everybody was so startled that's funny they'd pull their hand out of the tank what did you expect? you just stuck your hand anyways so the thing got so big that I eventually had to re-catch it which was it was a fast sucker I re-caught it and then had to let it go again because it was outgrowing the tank did you ever have any crazy exotic pets?
No not really I think the most exotic was a rabbit named Spanky. Aw. Yeah. Rabbits are great. But, and then you and I had fish and I think the placosomists were like so cool. Yeah, they are. Like so cool. And they can get huge. And not so big. Yeah. Yeah. That was probably the most exotic. What about you, PJ? Did you, I know you mentioned your dad's rattlesnake, but what about you? Is it dogs? Anything more exotic than that? Thanks for the boost. Outdoor Geeks here with 5,000 Sats. He says, If you haven't already, check out Jenny's Parks, a Star Trek cat books from your local digital library.
Oh my gosh, that's funny. Star Trek Cats. Yes. That's good to know. How can I be a Star Trek fan for this many years and still be learning about this stuff? This is great. Star Trek Cats. It's cats in space. And that one's a Spock cat. And that one's a Kurt cat. That one's a Scotty cat. That is so cute. That's pretty great. I'll show that to Bella. Turd Ferguson's here with 10,000 sats. Yeah. turd says sending value for episode 29 thank you turd nice to hear from you appreciate you appreciate everybody even those of you who just uh streamed those sats silently never send us an actual message but just send values you listened eight of you did that we stacked 5,581 sats that way when you combine it with our boosters the show ticked up a bit this week we stacked 75,671 sats thank you everybody who supports the show with a boost, Okay, I know we're running a little long. Well, longer than I intended to.
But I want to leave you with this story. Because this one is, well, it kind of makes me want to move to Florida. Because only in Florida does something like this happen. Police bust in to a Chuck E. Cheese and arrest the Chuck E. Cheese mascot while he's in full uniform. With the Chuck E. Cheese head on and everything. Oh my gosh. While kids are in the middle of a birthday party. Oh, wow. Oh, Ange, it's something else. New details into the arrest of Chuck E. Cheese, or at least the man who was dressed up as one. It happened at a restaurant in Tallahassee. A lot of family from the villages witnessed the entire thing while on vacation.
As Fox 35's Randy Hildreth found out, it was a visit the kids will likely never forget. Chuck E. Cheese got whistic. It's been the talk of the Gaggenheimer family for the last few days. Like, asking 100 questions of, like, does this mean Chuck E.'s gone forever? Like, what now? The Central Florida family was snapped in the back of this now viral photo of Chuck E. Cheese getting arrested at a Tallahassee location. Yeah, one of the patrons there got a photo of literally the cops escorting the Chuck E. Cheese mascot out, cuffed, arms and hands behind his back. He's got the Chuck E. Cheese gloves and helmet mask thing on that big mouse head as he's being escorted out the door by cops. And you can see in the background, just a group of kids watching the entire thing go down.
The family had just gotten in town to visit Grandma. Four-year-old Lizzie says she was nearly ready to help Mr. Cheese. I just didn't want to get in Weston. She's going to go help us. Then she saw the police and boom, bam. Mom says Lizzie had just taken a picture with the character. And since her old Jenny was about to take one when police walked over. I was in the midst of pushing Jenny towards Truckee. The cop grabbed one wrist and another one grabbed the other wrist, put it behind his back, told him not to resist. And at the same time, I'm pulling my kids away, like, what's going on in the midst of this?
According to the arrest affidavit, the man in the costume was Jermell Jones. He was arrested for credit card fraud. Police say he worked at the arcade and racked up a little over $100 in charges. I like this guy. So, you know, a customer leaves a credit card behind. Does he go buy a big screen TV? He buys himself some smokes. He gets himself some Whataburger. He goes to the Circle K and gets a beverage. He goes and gets a couple of meats from the meat deli. And I guess orders a replacement. There's a replacement card fee on here. But I just think it's hilarious. The most thing he's spending his money on is smokes and meat on this guy's stolen credit card.
Just some basics. A card left by a customer. Gaggenheimer thinks he slipped on the costume to hide from police. She's glad he was caught, but wish he hadn't been arrested in front of the kids. Wait a second. When they had him at the truck, they took... He slipped on the costume to... So he wasn't actually the hired Chuck E. Cheese guy? I'm not sure. That's part of the story's not clear. He does work at Chuck E. Cheese. Oh, my God. But he might not... Maybe they rotate whose mascot that day. That's weird. Yeah. Well, the kids had issue with it, too, because, you know, their dreams of Chuck E. Cheese being real were shattered by this.
Right. Caught, but wish he hadn't been arrested in front of the kids. When they had him at the truck, they took off his head and put it on top of the SUV truck. So then we went into the, well, it's kind of like, you know, Chucky's got a lot of friends who help him so he can get to all the Chucky Cheese places at once, like trying to manage the magic still while we're watching now the man get undressed out of the costume outside. This mom tried real hard. Wow. She's trying to manage the magic. That's so bad. All right. But I've been inspired. if you boost in to next week's episode with 3,333 sats I'm going to say it's a cheese boost it's a Chuck E. Cheese boost.
And that'll be your boost soundbite I mean come on how great is that yeah that is, crazy alright that's your wild world for you and I'll put a link to the entire video it's actually it gets even funnier as you watch the video, it's kind of a I mean it's an unfortunate situation but it is mildly hilarious and it's a very Florida thing. So go check it out. Links to what we talked about today, like that one, are at weeklylaunch.rocks. And, of course, we'd love it if you joined us live. Give it that special vibe. We've got a mumble room and we've got a chat room going all the time.
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